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  1. ECOLOG-L Digest - 8 May 2002 to 9 May 2002 (#2002-119)
  2. Release of Ecosistemas 2002/2
  3. behavioral changes to wildlife from anthropogenic activities?
  4. Re: Factors, levels and controls
  5. deer addictions
  6. Where to get Kaolinite clay for my experiments?
  7. Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program
  8. postdoc: Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology,
  9. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  10. MyCOE - Geographic Learning for SD Project for Youth
  11. Energy allocation patterns in trees
  12. Job Announcement-Bio Science Tech in Moab, UT
  13. Job Posting
  14. Job Posting
  15. ECOLOG-L Digest - 7 May 2002 to 8 May 2002 (#2002-118)
  16. Biologists Sought a Treaty; Now They Fault It
  17. Factors, levels and controls
  18. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  19. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  20. postdoc position in tree ecophysiology
  21. Real Green Revolution
  22. The Real Green Revolution: Organic and agroecological farming
  23. The Real Green Revolution
  24. JOB ANNOUNCEMENT
  25. avian disease tech position in Hawaii
  26. Fluxnet-Canada Job Announcement
  27. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  28. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  29. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  30. postdoc in tree ecophysiology- correction
  31. job ad
  32. position announcement
  33. Not nice
  34. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  35. Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  36. agricultural buffers around forest and wetlands
  37. For researchers working in Hawaii
  38. Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
  39. Invitation: Release of NCSE Conference Report
  40. impacts of light and noise on wetland wildlife?
  41. In Search of Tropical Fieldwork
  42. Ernie's Excellent Question
  43. Archive files of this month.
  44. RUPANTAR - a simple e-mail-to-html converter.


Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 8 May 2002 to 9 May 2002 (#2002-119)

There are 13 messages totalling 769 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Release of Ecosistemas 2002/2
  2. behavioral changes to wildlife from anthropogenic activities?
  3. Factors, levels and controls
  4. deer addictions
  5. Where to get Kaolinite clay for my experiments?
  6. Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program
  7. postdoc: Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology, Univ. of 
D
  8. Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy
  9. MyCOE - Geographic Learning for SD Project for Youth
 10. Energy allocation patterns in trees
 11. Job Announcement-Bio Science Tech in Moab, UT
 12. Job Posting (2)

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 15:25:40 +0200
From:    Rey Benayas Jose M <josem.rey@UAH.ES>
Subject: Release of Ecosistemas 2002/2

This announcement is of interest for Spanish readers.

You are welcome to visit the new issue of Ecosistemas (www.aeet.org). Ecosis
emas is a full electronic journal in the fields of Ecology and Environmental
Sciences. It is an excellent tool for environmental education.

José M. Rey Benayas
Ecosistemas

Índice de Ecosistemas 2002/2

Editorial
Ecosistemas continúa creciendo

Editorial Invitada
Espacios Naturales Protegidos

Carta de la Junta Directiva de la Asociación Espańola de Ecología Terrestre

Cartas al editor:
żQué es Pan Park?, por Edit Borza.
Sitio web EUROPARC-Espańa, el portal profesional de los espacios naturales p
otegidos, por Javier Puertas.
Ecosistemas debe diversificarse, por Fernando Valladares.

Artículos de opinión:
La investigación como piedra angular en la gestión de la Reserva Natural La 
aguna de Fuente de Piedra (Málaga, Espańa), por Juan Lucena.
Machu Picchu, Patrimonio Cultural y Natural de la Humanidad: problemas y alt
rnativas, por Alberto Martorell.
La gestión activa en los parques naturales, una asignatura pendiente, por Ja
me Vicens i Perpinyá.

Tesis y proyectos:
Biodiversidad de los bosques de la Península Tingitana (Marruecos <articu
o2.htm> ), por Redouan Ajbilou.
Dinámica no lineal y control en Ecosistemas,  <articulo4.htm> por Javi
r G. P. Gamarra.
Sistemas tradicionales de gestión del bosque tropical en Indonesia: ecología
y prácticas silviculturales <articulo1.htm> , por Carmen García Fernán
ez.
Producción y ciclo del nitrógeno en reforestaciones de Quercíneas <articu
o3.htm> , por Fernando Silla Cortés.

Investigación:
Regeneración de la laguna costera de la Encanyissada (Delta del Ebro). Una e
periencia de biomanipulación, por Elisenda Fores, Antoni Espanya y Fermín Mo
ales.
El cambio climático y la reducción de la reserva de agua en el bosque medite
ráneo, por Carlos A. Gracia, Santi Sabaté y Anabel Sánchez.
Los macro y mesomamíferos como indicadores ecológicos del estado de conserva
ión del Parque Natural del Seńorío de Bertiz, por Juan Herrero, Arantza Alde
abal, Inazio Garin y Alicia García.
La conectividad ecológica en el Área Metropolitana de Barcelona, por Joan Ma
ull y Josep M Mallarach.
żCoinciden los espacios naturales protegidos con las áreas relevantes de div
rsidad de herpetofauna en Espańa peninsular y Baleares?, por Enrique de la M
ntańa y Jose MŞ Rey Benayas
Modelos de conectividad del paisaje a distintas escalas. Ejemplos de aplicac
ón en la Comunidad de Madrid, por Pablo Sastre, José Vicente de Lucio y Carl
ta Martínez.

Revisión:
El Plan de Acción para los espacios naturales protegidos del Estado Espańol,
por Marta Múgica y Javier Gómez-Limón.

Entrevista a:
José Antonio Cordero Secretario General de CYTED, por Regino Zamora.

Informes:
La gestión forestal en los espacios naturales protegidos: el ejemplo del Par
ue Natural del Moncayo, por Enrique Arrechea.
Teoría de las tres dimensiones de desarrollo sostenible, por Miren Artaraz.
Aplicación del "Marco lógico" a la planificación de espacios naturales prote
idos, por José Antonio Atauri y Javier Gómez-Limón.
Los planes de seguimiento en los parques naturales gestionados por la Diputa
ión de Barcelona, por Antoni Bombí, Carles Castell, Daniel Guinart, Santi Ll
cuna y Ángel Mińo.
Reintroducción del tapir (Tapirus terrestris) en Tucumán (Argentina), por Ju
n Pablo Juliá.
Incendios y bancos de semillas forestales en la Comunidad Valenciana, por MŞ
Amparo Melián.

Educación Ambiental:
Rehabilitación ambiental del Sitio de Interés Científico de Juncalillo del S
r (Gran Canaria), por Miguel Ángel Peńa.

Noticias y Enlaces

Agenda

Tablón de Anuncios

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 08:13:09 -0600
From:    Michael Jones <mjones@GREYSTONE-CONSULTANTS.COM>
Subject: behavioral changes to wildlife from anthropogenic activities?

I am looking for papers containing estimated measures of adverse impacts =
to wildlife at a specified distance away from an anthropogenic activity =
such as a compressor at a well pad, road traffic (excluding collisions), =
human intrusion (e.g., well checks, road surveying).  This information =
would be most useful to include in environmental impact statements.  =
Thanx for your help.

Michael Lee Jones
Certified Senior Ecologist

Greystone Environmental Consultants
5231 S. Quebec St.
Greenwood Village, CO 80111
(303) 850-0930   (303) 721-9298 fax
mjones@greystone-consultants.com

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 09:45:37 EDT
From:    "Jay S. Bancroft" <jbancroft@STATE.DE.US>
Subject: Re: Factors, levels and controls

1. Seems ok to me. Simple t-tests with alpha adjustment if there is repeated
(weight) measuring. There is a tremendous literature on this for crop and
husbandry. They often use levels to look for cost effective mixtures (aka
ficticious examples are often not very intresting).
2. This is a typical regression where you assume  the Xs are a random sample
of the population (are your animals reprsentative?). Sokal and Rohlf would b

a good ref. Real problem seemsto be - Do you have many blood pressure
readings per animal after varying activity (catagory->GLM)?

Jay Bancroft
Fish and Wildlife Biometrician
jbancroft@state.de.us  http://jsb95003.tripod.com/
PO Box 330, Little Creek, DE 19961
(302) 739-4782 (or 4783, 5267, & 3810)
FAX (302) 739-6780
h: (302)730-4752; 225 Bayard Av., Dover, DE 19901-3706

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 11:06:53 -0400
From:    "Elizabeth L. Rich" <e.l.rich@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: deer addictions

Does anyone know if the story about a deer population becoming addicted to
tobacco by eating discarded cigarette stubs  is true or apocryphal?  I've
often wondered about that.


Elizabeth L. Rich
erich@drexel.edu
Drexel University
Philadelphia, PA 19104


"Progress is made by moving from failure
to failure with undiminished enthusiasm"

--Winston Churchill

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 10:34:50 -0700
From:    qiquan wang <qiquanw@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Where to get Kaolinite clay for my experiments?

Hi, there
    I need several kilograms of kaolinite clay for my
experiments. The required content of kaolinite is
>50%. If you know where I can get it, please e-mail
me. Your help is highly appreciated.
Yours,
Qiquan

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 12:34:00 -0600
From:    David Inouye <di5@umail.umd.edu>
Subject: Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program

Dear Colleague:
The Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program announces its 2002
competitions. Below is a brief announcement (in addition to the
Microsoft Word version attached) that contains application guidelines.
Please distribute the announcement as appropriate. Because the student
application deadline is 1 July 2002, a timely distribution would be
appreciated.
Sincerely,
Gary Machlis
Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program Coordinator

--Announcement--

2002 Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program for the Americas
The Canon National Parks Science Scholars Program is pleased to announce
its 2002 competitions. The program is a collaboration among Canon U.S.A.,
Inc., the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the US
National Park Service. Thanks to a generous commitment by Canon U.S.A.,
Inc., the program will be awarding eight US$78,000 scholarships to Ph.D.
students throughout the Americas to conduct research critical to
conserving the national parks of the region.
Research projects in the biological, physical, social and cultural
sciences are eligible, as well as projects in a new category ­ technology
innovation in support of conservation science. Applications must be
received by 1 July 2002. For information about the Canon National Parks
Science Scholars Program and a copy of the Application Guide, please
visit the website at <www.nature.nps.gov/canonscholarships/>.


Programa Canon 2002 para Investigadores Científicos de Parques Nacionales
para todas las Américas
El Programa Canon para Investigadores Científicos de Parques Nacionales
se complace en anunciarle su convocatoria para el ańo 2002. El programa
es fruto de la colaboración entre Canon U.S.A., Inc., la Asociación
Americana para el Avance de la Ciencia y el Servicio de Parques
Nacionales de los Estados Unidos. Gracias a la generosa contribución de
Canon U.S.A., Inc., el programa concederá ocho becas de 78.000 dólares
cada una a estudiantes de doctorado de las Américas que realicen
investigaciones clave para la conservación de los parques nacionales de
la región.
Pueden optar a las becas proyectos en ciencias biológicas, físicas,
sociales y culturales, al igual que proyectos en una nueva categoría ­ la
innovación tecnológica aplicada a la ciencia de la conservación. La fecha
límite para recibir las solicitudes es el 1 de julio de 2002. Si desea
obtener más información sobre el Programa Canon para Investigadores
Científicos de Parques Nacionales y una copia de la guía de solicitudes,
por favor visite la siguiente página web
<www.nature.nps.gov/canonscholarships/>.

Brian E. Forist
Research Associate
National Park Service
Social Science Program
1849 C Street, NW (3127)
Washington, DC 20240
202.208.6330

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 12:55:33 -0600
From:    David Inouye <di5@umail.umd.edu>
Subject: postdoc: Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology,
         Univ. of MD

         The purpose of this newly established center
(http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/centers/bio.htm) is to advance research and
education in computational biology at the University of Maryland through
the establishment of new nationally visible research programs that are at
the interface between biological and computational sciences. The campus has
committed substantial resources to attract outstanding new faculty to the
Center and to set up the necessary infrastructure needed to conduct
cutting-edge research in this area. Participating faculty are expected to
come from a variety of backgrounds including computer science, mathematics
and statistics, molecular biology and biochemistry. The new Center will be
administered through UMIACS, with active participation from various
academic units including Biology , Computer Science, Mathematics, Chemistry
and Biochemistry, and Cell Biology and Molecular Genetics. The Center's
research programs will be primarily determined by the interests of the new
faculty hires and are expected to be in a focused area linking functional
genomics and proteomics. The Center will also be pursuing active
collaborations with some of the many outstanding research groups around the
Washington area, including NIH, Celera, TIGR, UMBI, and the Smithsonian.

         The campus is well positioned to undertake this new initiative
given the fact that the graduate programs in Computer Science and
Mathematics are exceptionally strong as indicated by all national rankings,
coupled with significant strengths in a number of areas in biological
sciences. In fact, the campus currently has a significant number of ongoing
research activities in computational biology, most of which are summarized
in A Brief Overview of Current Campus Activities Related to Computational
Biology. These activities are grouped under the general areas: Molecular
and Cellular Biology, Neuroscience, Computational Techniques, and
Statistical and Mathematical Modeling.

         If you're interested, particular if you have an interest in
analysis of long-term ecological data sets, contact me.


Dr. David W. Inouye, Director
Graduate Program in Sustainable Development and Conservation Biology
Room 1201, Biology/Psychology Building
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742-4415
301-405-6946
di5@umail.umd.edu
FAX 301-314-9358

For the CONS home page, go to http://www.umd.edu/CONS

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 14:48:16 EDT
From:    Arcologic@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy

Friends,

Brian Czech is devoting himself to probably the greatest current challenge t

life on earth. (Ourselves).  The earth has previously survived a series of
great biological extinctions, and is now in the midst of another one--this
time we are the natural cause.  Man has grown in numbers to the point that w

consume a large share of the earth's total "primary production,"  we are
starving or consuming our neighbor organisms.  On May 5th, he announced the
formation of a working group to tackle the problem by finding ways to
restrain man's rate of consumption and growth.  This seems naturally to be a
good thing.  While I agree with the overall goal, I was uncomfortable with
some of the wording in the announcement, such as:

> The Working Group for the Steady State Economy, on the other hand, will
> deal expressly with the conflict between economic growth and wildlife
> conservation.  Everyone will be welcome to join, but the group is likel

> to consist primarily of those who already acknowledge or suspect the
> conflict between economic growth and wildlife conservation.

My impression is that "economic growth" is now viewed as being equivalent to
the purposes of many corporations (not all), which are like invasive
organisms that flourish at the expense of the communities they invade, havin

a general lack of concern for the long-term consequences, even for
themselves.  I think Brian, Nicholas, I, and others can agree that many
corporations (= people) are bad, and their vision of good business threatens
to destroy all of nature.  But, I felt the need to show in an example how a
corporation, or business, in a way helps to protect biodiversity.

Small towns may be the very best organizational structure for mankind--small
groups of people that don't need to travel very far to obtain their daily
needs, including going to work.  The small communities may improve efficienc

by having specializations, as modern commerce and technology seem to dictate

and goods and materials are transported back and forth.  It seems to me that
each small community must have some industrial or commercial component to
support its share of prosperity.  This kind of small-town factory is part of
the solution, not the problem.  The local factory or other commercial
activity gives people a way to be productive without relying on direct use o

their immediate habitat.

If the only factory in a small town closes, and people are left to make do, 

imagine people returning to a third-world condition where poaching and
plundering of the surrounding environment is resorted to to survive, and
nature is the loser.  For those people presently in this third-world
condition, we need to strengthen their economies and thereby save the
habitats they are burdening.  (A recent study showed that an advanced societ

actually uses less land to satisfy its agricultural needs than does a poor
community with far less consumption.)

The above more clearly expresses my view and concern.  I am a novice in thes

things, and I should turn to others to better handle the details.  Somehow w

need to make sure that corporations serve to uplift the well-being of man,
rather than to enrich themselves by destroying others (and ultimately
themselves).

Ernie Rogers

(For the record, the small town I was thinking of is in the Ozarks, on I-44
between Springfield, MO, and Saint Louis.  They have a modern facility that
makes automated plant machinery for world-wide markets.  They use no local
resources except an exceptionally good local labor supply.  But, the small
town could have been anywhere in the world, provided they could have
sufficient capital, education, and time to develop under a stable government
)

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 12:27:27 -0700
From:    "David P. Bernard" <dpbernard@GTCINTERNET.COM>
Subject: MyCOE - Geographic Learning for SD Project for Youth

 ** Please forward this email to interested networks and colleagues **

 The National Geographic Society, the Association of American
Geographers (AAG), ESRI, and the United Nations Environment Programme
are partnering with U.S. Departments of Agriculture (USDA) and State as
well as other agencies and organizations on an innovative learning
activity for high
school and college students.   This program, titled My Community, Our
Earth: Geographic Learning for Sustainable Development, is an effort to
advance geographic learning and demonstrate approaches to sustainable
development.

Secondary school and university students are invited to create geography
projects by May 31, 2002 that use the methods and tools of geography to
show how their communities are changing and how they can be made more
sustainable.  The projects focus on a sustainable development theme,
using a specified set of topics as a starting point, plus guidelines.
There are 3,000 educational resource kits available free for the first
3,000
participants to register on the website shown below.   Based upon the
guidelines, the resource materials, and their own resources, students
can do projects such as:

- Create maps to show deforestation in their region.
- Survey their local riverbed and compare it to a satellite image of the
same riverbed from 1990.
 - Chart the increase or decrease of disease in their country over the
last five years.

 The emphasis is on using geographic analysis to find solutions for
sustainability.

 Projects will compete for the opportunity to be displayed at relevant
international venues where decision makers and professionals involved
with sustainable development can review the projects developed by the
students.  This is an opportunity for students to teach leaders! Venues
include:

 - World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg, South Africa
- ESRI International User Conference in San Diego, California
- AAG Annual Meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana
- Regional Conference of the International Geographical Union in Durban,
South Africa

 Projects will also be displayed on the MyCOE Web site.

 Additional information:
 -  The MyCOE website has information on all aspects of this program:
http://www.geography.org/sustainable/
-  USDA involvement and points of contact are detailed in an April 26,
2002 Press Release found at
http://www.usda.gov/news/releases/2002/04/0168.htm

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 16:54:44 -0500
From:    "Swihart, Rob" <rswihart@FNR.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: Energy allocation patterns in trees

Can anybody point me toward studies of the proportion of total
photosynthate allocated to reproductive tissue (fruits, seeds) in woody
angiosperms?  I'm interested in virtually any trees, but especially
Quercus, Carya, Juglans, Acer, and Fagus.  Is anyone aware of studies
(or intuition) linking competitive dominance and patterns of allocation?
Other life history attributes and investment in reproduction?

Any leads are greatly appreciated.  If there's sufficient interest, I'd
be happy to post a summary of responses.

Sincerely,

Rob Swihart
Professor of Wildlife Ecology
Department of Forestry and Natural Resources
Purdue University
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1159
PH:    765-494-3566
FAX: 765-496-2422

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Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 15:25:56 -0700
From:    Sue Phillips <sue_phillips@USGS.GOV>
Subject: Job Announcement-Bio Science Tech in Moab, UT

Hi all,
We at the Canyonlands Field Station of the USGS are accepting applications
for the Biological Science Technician Position.  Please note that the
application deadline is May 15. Start date will be sometime in early June,
and the position lasts for 180 working days, which amounts to about 10-11
months.  I've copied the bulletin with all the relevent information here,
but if you have questions, please feel free to contact me by email
(sue_phillips@usgs.gov) , or by calling me at 435-719-2337.
Sue

                               UNITED STATES
                        DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
                             GEOLOGICAL SURVEY

                      TEMPORARY RECRUITMENT BULLETIN

VACANCY NO: SP-03 (Revised 8/27/01)
POSITION:  Biological Science Technician, GG-0404-05
DATE OPENED: SALARY:  $11.32 per hour
DATE CLOSED: 2/22/02
TYPE OF APPT:  Temporary, Not-to-exceed 180 working days

TOUR OF DUTY:  Full-Time, with possible periods of part-time and
intermittent work
AREA OF CONSIDERATION:  All U.S. Citizens
LOCATION:  Biological Resources Division, Moab, Utah and/or  Needles
District of Canyonlands National Park, Utah

There are three (3) positions to be hired from this announcement.

THIS IS A TEMPORARY EXCEPTED SERVICES POSITION for which all qualified
applicants, with or without Federal status may apply and be considered.
Appointment to these positions, however, will not convey permanent status
in the Federal service.  Appointment will only be for the duration of the
position, normally 3-6 months.  Temporary employees are covered by the
Social Security Retirement System and annual and sick leave will be accrued
except in intermittent status.  Employees are ineligible for health and
life insurance coverage.

DUTIES:  Performs the following and similar kinds of routine tasks
gathering field data in a cryptobiotic soil research project:  Conducts
surveys and collections of soil and plant material at a variety of field
sites in southeastern Utah and the desert southwest; conducts surveys and
samples soil and vegetation in areas of exotic plant invasion; will be
responsible for sample preparation, labeling and a limited amount of soil
and plant tissue analysis, as well as assist with data entry into computer
databases.  May assist with special projects as needed including:
revegetation, fencing and exotic plant control.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:  This position may occasionally require camping in
remote locations.  The work involves long hours spent standing, bending,
walking, and a great amount of physical exertion.  The incumbent may be
required to lift containers weighing up to 35 pounds in the performance of
assigned duties as well as carry heavy packs into the backcountry.  Work
hours will typically be 8 a.m. - 5 p.m., but may vary during the employment
term with weather and field conditions.

QUALIFICATIONS:  To qualify for a GG-5 you need nine months of field party
experience OR three years of sub-professional experience OR three years of
college with courses related to the field of employment and three months of
lab or field work experience.  Satisfactory completion of a field course of
study may be substituted for the three months of field and/or laboratory
experience.  One year of college is equivalent to 30 semester hours or 45
quarter hours.  Sub-professional experience consists of working as a
technician or aid in a laboratory or similar environment.  EQUIVALENT
COMBINATION OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE ARE QUALIFYING.

BASIS OF EVALUATION: All applicants will be evaluated on the basis of
education and experience (including unpaid or volunteer experience).
Applicants must meet all qualifications and eligibility requirements by the
closing date of this announcement.

First preference in referral will be given to eligible applicants entitled
to 10 point veterans preference who have a compensable service-connected
disability of 10 percent or more.  All other qualified applicants entitled
to veterans preference will be given preference over qualified applicants
not entitled to veterans' preference.

ALL APPLICANTS MUST BE UNITED STATES CITIZENS:  Under regulations in the
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, employment in this position is
limited to those persons who are authorized to work in the United States.
Verification of employment eligibility will be required at the time of
appointment.
As a condition of employment, all new employees reporting for duty with the
Department of the Interior will be paid through direct deposit to a
financial institution of their choice.

Applicants selected for Federal employment will be required to complete a
Declaration of Federal Employment, OF-306, prior to being appointed to
determine their suitability for Federal employment and to authorize a
background investigation.  Failure to answer all questions truthfully and
completely or providing false statements on the application may be grounds
for not hiring the applicant, or for firing the applicant after he/she
begins work.  Also, he/she may be punished by fine or imprisonment (U.S.
Code, Title 18, Section 1001).

Prior to or at the time of appointment, male applicants born after December
31, 1959, will have to certify that they have registered with the Selective
Service System in order to be appointed to a position with the United
States Geological Survey, unless legally qualified for an exception.

Employees of the U.S. Geological Survey are subject to the provisions of
Title 43, U.S. Code, Section 31 (a) and may not according to this
legislation and related regulation:  (a) have any personal or private
interest, direct or indirect, in lands or mineral wealth of such lands or a
region under survey and whose title is in the U.S.; (b) execute surveys or
examination for private parties or corporations; or (c)  have personal or
private interest, direct or indirect, in any private mining or mineral
enterprise doing business in the U.S. except where specifically authorized
by the Director of the U.S. Geological Survey.

HOW TO APPLY:  Carefully read all information and instructions.  It is the
responsibility of the applicant to insure the application is complete.  The
personnel office will not be responsible for soliciting additional
information from applicants or from official personnel records, but will
consider individuals based on their applications as submitted.
Applications must be received in the Canyonlands Field Station office by
the closing date on the announcement in order to be considered.  To obtain
an OF-612, contact the U.S. Geological Survey, Biological Resources
Division at (435) 719-2331.

Submit one of the following forms of application:

A.  Resume OR
B.  Form OF 612, Optional Application for Federal Employment OR
C.  Other written format

Also submit:

College transcript or list of college courses, specifying title of course
work, completion date, semester or quarter hours earned by course title,
and grade earned.

To claim 5 point Veterans Preference, a DD-214 showing character of
discharge is required.  If claiming 10 point Veterans Preference, an SF-15
with proof of claim is required.

Apply to:

     Sue Phillips
     U.S. Geological Survey, Biological Resources Division
     Canyonlands Field Station
     2290 S. West Resource Blvd.
     Moab, UT 84532

It is against the law to submit applications for employment using
government franked envelopes or mail services (18 USC 1719).  All such
applications will not be considered.  Applications received by fax or
automated mail systems will NOT be considered.

Whichever form of application you choose, the following must be included:

JOB INFORMATION:

- Announcement number, title, and grade(s) of the job for which you are
applying

PERSONAL INFORMATION:

- Full name, mailing address (with zip code) and day and evening phone
numbers (with area code)
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- Highest Federal civilian grade held (also give job series and dates held)

EDUCATION:

- High school (name and address, including zip code if known)
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known)
  -  Majors
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  credits earned and indicate whether semester or quarter hours)
- Send a copy of your college transcripts of list of college courses
completed, specify title of course, semester or quarter hours earned for
each course, date completed, and grade earned.

WORK EXPERIENCE:

- Give the following information on your paid and nonpaid work experience
related to the job for which you are applying (do not send job
descriptions)
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  - Duties and accomplishments
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  - Hours per week
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- Indicate if we may contact your current supervisor

OTHER QUALIFICATIONS:

- Job-related training courses (title, length, and date taken)
- Job-related skills (i.e., other language, computer software; hardware,
tools, machinery, typing speed, etc.)
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- Job-related honors, awards, and special accomplishments (i.e.,
publications, memberships in professional or honor
   societies, leadership activities, public speaking, and performance
awards).  Give details but do not send documents
   unless requested

 APPLICATIONS MUST BE RECEIVED IN THE CANYONLANDS FIELD STATION OFFICE BY
          THE CLOSING DATE OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT TO BE CONSIDERED.

        THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 16:33:52 -0500
From:    Ric Land <Ric.Land@MOBOT.ORG>
Subject: Job Posting

Botanical Society of America
Executive Director

The Botanical Society of America is a society of professional plant
biologist and soon will relocate its headquarters to Missouri Botanical
Garden in St. Louis.  For nearly 100 years, the society has promoted plant
biology through research, education and outreach.  The Society publishes The
American Journal of Botany, The Plant Science Bulletin, a Guide to Graduate
Study in Botany in the US and Canada, and other occasional publications; it
sponsors or co-sponsors an annual meeting; and it maintains a web site
containing educational information and aids.  Membership is approximately
2,500 in the US and 50 other countries.

We seek a dynamic, visionary Executive Director, the first in the Society's
history, to lead, oversee, and direct daily operations, facilitate staff
development, coordinate and aid in developing various initiatives and
programs, facilitate strategic planning and plan implementation.  Also, the
selected candidate will develop new lines of communication, cooperation and
collaboration with a variety of external entities, maintain growth, oversee
financial aspects of operation, supervise staff and coordinate fundraising.

The ideal candidate will have a deep interest in plant biology, a Master's
degree in a related area, Ph.D. preferred, plus seven years relevant and
increasingly responsible experience.  Proven analytical, problem resolution,
decision-making skills, along with enthusiasm, creativity, and a collegial
style required.  Demonstrated fundraising experience essential.  Exceptional
written and oral communication skills, ability to work collaboratively and
synergistically with the Executive Committee, Society committees, and other
scientific or professional organizations, and demonstrated skill in
administration and financial management a must.

Position is open until filled; there is no closing date.  We offer an
outstanding benefits package including medical, dental, and life insurance,
retirement program, and 403(b) with a generous match.  To apply, submit
curriculum vitae, along with names and addresses of three references to
Missouri Botanical Garden, Human Resource Management, Attn: BSA Search
Committee, P.O. Box 299, St. Louis, MO 63166, or by e-mail to jobs@mobot.org
, or fax to (314) 577-9597.  Visit the BSA web site at www.botany.org to
learn more about the Society.

Equal Opportunity Employer

Ric Land
Employment Manager
Missouri Botanical Garden
2345 Tower Grove Ave.
St. Louis, MO  63110
Office: (314) 577-9583
Fax: (314) 577-9597
E-mail: ric.land@mobot.org
Web: www.mobot.org

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 9 May 2002 16:35:49 -0500
From:    Ric Land <Ric.Land@MOBOT.ORG>
Subject: Job Posting

        Center for Plant Conservation
        Manager, Conservation Programs

        Based in St. Louis, manages the Center for Plant Conservation's
national rare plant conservation program.  Manages process of developing and
disseminating technical policies, standards and protocols for CPC's network
of 33 institutions.  Develops and administers an internal review process for
institutions to examine their programs, and assists institutions evaluate
the quality and genetic adequacy of their endangered plant collection.
Develops workshops and symposia, manages the database, coordinates the
Priority Regions program and action plan preparation. Writes and manages
grants, develops action plans, supervises support staff, interns, and
volunteers, and participates in conservation program planning, development
and advocacy at national and regional levels.

        Qualifications include a Master's degree in botany or conservation
biology; Ph.D. strongly preferred.  Three year's experience in implementing
plant conservation activities or plant conservation management and/or
research required.  Experience in working with federal and state agencies
and NGO's and knowledge of the plant conservation community highly desired.
Excellent oral and written communication skills, strong computer and
database management skills and willingness to travel essential.


Ric Land
Employment Manager
Missouri Botanical Garden
2345 Tower Grove Ave.
St. Louis, MO  63110
Office: (314) 577-9583
Fax: (314) 577-9597
E-mail: ric.land@mobot.org
Web: www.mobot.org

------------------------------

Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 7 May 2002 to 8 May 2002 (#2002-118)

There are 21 messages totalling 1163 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Biologists Sought a Treaty; Now They Fault It
  2. Factors, levels and controls
  3. Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy (3)
  4. postdoc position in tree ecophysiology
  5. Real Green Revolution
  6. JOB ANNOUNCEMENT
  7. avian disease tech position in Hawaii
  8. Fluxnet-Canada Job Announcement
  9. postdoc in tree ecophysiology- correction
 10. job ad
 11. position announcement
 12. Not nice
 13. agricultural buffers around forest and wetlands
 14. For researchers working in Hawaii
 15. Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
 16. Invitation: Release of NCSE Conference Report
 17. impacts of light and noise on wetland wildlife?
 18. In Search of Tropical Fieldwork
 19. Ernie's Excellent Question

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 12:32:55 -0400
From:    Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Biologists Sought a Treaty; Now They Fault It

 http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/earth/07TREA.html
Biologists Sought a Treaty; Now They Fault It
By ANDREW C. REVKIN

A treaty enacted nine years ago to conserve and exploit the diversity of
species on earth is seriously impeding biologists' efforts to catalog
and comprehend that same natural bounty, many scientists say.

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 18:08:02 -0300
From:    Voltolini <jcvoltol@UOL.COM.BR>
Subject: Factors, levels and controls

Dear friends, I have two doubts coming from my students !

1 - Just as a ficticious example..... Someone is comparing the weight (mass)
of animals exposed to two diets; one as the normal diet in nature and
another one as a zoo diet, the animals exposed to the natural diet will be
the control. Then, I have "diet" as a treatment (factor) with just one level
(the zoo diet) because the control is not a treatment level! Is it right ?
May I have an experiment with just ONE factor level ? In some stats books
there is the information that a control cannot be considered as a factor
level !

2 - In the case of comparing by regression the weight (independent variable)
of animals and their blood pressure (dependent variable), I will have for
EACH animal one data of weight and the blood pressure. In this case, may I
consider that weight as the factor and each individual weight data as one
level ? In this case the level number will be equal to the sample size !


Thanks for any suggestions !


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Prof. J. C. VOLTOLINI
Grupo de Estudos em Ecologia de Mamiferos (ECOMAM)
Universidade de Taubate, Departamento de Biologia
Praca Marcelino Monteiro 63, Bom Conselho.
Taubate, SP. CEP 12030-010. BRASIL.
Tel: 0XX12 - 2254165 (Lab. Zool.) ou 2254277 (Depto. Biol.)
E-Mail: jcvoltol@uol.com.br
http://www.mundobio.rg3.net/
http://www.sobresites.com/ecologia/institui.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 11:37:45 -0400
From:    Nicholas Stow <nstow5767@ROGERS.COM>
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy

This challenge was sent to Brian, but I'd like to take a stab at it.

The premise is unrealistic, posing a problem that doesn't exist.

Why would there be a factory in "a small remote community ...."  Being
small, the community offers no local market.  Being remote, it is poorly
situated for an external market.  Nor does it  "draw heavily on local raw
materials."  And given that the community is small, how can the factory
employ "many people?"

Here's a more likely scenario.  The people of a small, remote community in
an area of high biodiversity survive quite adequately and happily on
subsistence agriculture and small exports of natural forest products.  The
government of their country has accumulated a large national debt purchasing
arms to control its burgeoning, urban population and to protect itself from
its equally strained neighbors.  In order to improve the country's ability
to pay the interest on its debt, the IMF and World Bank loan the country
more money to develop an export-based economy, while imposing strict
controls over social, health and education expenditures.  With the new
money, the country subsidizes the development of large, new
coffee/tea/timber/cattle operations in the community, clearing the local
forest and expropriating the limited arable land.  With their traditional
economy destroyed, the people of the local community are forced to work for
the new landowners, upon whom they are now totally dependent.  This allows
the new corporate landowners to set wages at the bare minimum necessary for
survival and to ignore environmental and health regulations in the use of
pesticides, fertilizers, clean water, and child labor.  Furthermore, because
the new landowners are actually subsidiary corporations and ship their
product to their own multinational parents, they can sell at below market
rates or even for a loss.  This minimizes the tax payable to the indebted
country (if, indeed, the area hasn't been designated a tax-free zone) and
increases profits of the parent corporation.  The situation is acceptable to
the eventual consumer of the product because, without such conditions, the
rapidly expanding market for the product (i.e. expanding urban populations)
would force the its price to somewhere near its real ecological and social
cost.

How would you deal with this problem Ernie?

Now I'm going to cycle over to the Bridgehead coffee shop to spend a little
bit more money for some shade-grown, organic, Co-op produced coffee beans.

Nicholas

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU]On Behalf Of Arcologic@AOL.COM
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:07 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy


To Brian Czech,

I am sure you and I have the same purpose, but I am mystified by the
language.  Surely you don't intend to expand the proportion of the world's
population that lives in poverty, or even to hold it steady.

I am curious how you might handle a particular problem---

A small, remote community in an area rich in biodiversity has a factory that
provides a modest income for the community, mostly as semiskilled labor.
The
factory owners have decided to move the plant to another location, but might
be persuaded otherwise.  Would the WGSSE support closure of the plant, or
would you argue to keep it in place?  In this instance, would a shrinking
local economy be a beneficial change?

What of the alternative--suppose if the plant stays, the owners say they
intend to expand it's output?  (I assume that the plant does not draw
heavily
on local raw materials, but employs many people.)

If you have a clear vision of the ideal future, maybe you could explain how
it works in this example.

Ernie Rogers

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 11:09:22 -0400
From:    Qing-Lai Dang <Qinglaidang@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: postdoc position in tree ecophysiology

One postdoctoral fellow position is available at Lakehead University to
study the acclimation of boreal trees to climate change.  The study will
consist of controlled experiments and intensive measurements of gas exchange
and some modelling.  Please refer to
http://giant.lakeheadu.ca/~qdang/research facility for the availability of
research equipment.

The position is initially for one year, but renewable depending on
performance.  The proposed starting date is September 1st, 2002.  Review of
applications will start on April 15th, 2002 and continue until the position
is filled.  If interested, please submit your CV and the names, emails,
telephones and mailing addresses of three references to:

Qing-Lai Dang (Ph.D.)
Faculty of Forestry and the Forest Environment
Lakehead University
955 Oliver Road, Thunder Bay
Ontario, Canada P7B 5E1

Telephone: (807) 343-8238
Fax: (807) 343-8116
Web: http://giant.lakeheadu.ca/~qdang/

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 12:51:28 -0400
From:    Dan Tufford <dtufford@GWM.SC.EDU>
Subject: Real Green Revolution

With the recent discussion on the general subject of sustainable growth
issues, some might find this pub (URL at the bottom) of interest.

Regards,

Daniel L. Tufford, Ph.D.
Department of Environmental Health Sciences
Norman J. Arnold School of Public Health
University of South Carolina
800 Sumter Street, Room 311
Columbia, SC 29208
Ph: 803.777.3292  Fx: 803.777.3391
e-mail: tufford@sc.edu

>>> Environmental Publication Announcements
<EnvPubs-L@envlib4.harvard.edu> 05/07/02 12:00AM >>>
                            ENVPUBS-L Digest 213

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) The Real Green Revolution: Organic and agroecological farming in
the South, Nicholas Parrott & Terry Marsden, Greenpeace Environmental
Trust
        by "Thomas M. Parris" <tparris@fas.harvard.edu>

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Message-ID: <001801c1f215$f20f5290$eb755f42@CHERRYBLOSSOM>
From: "Thomas M. Parris" <tparris@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "envpubs" <envpubs-l@envlib4.harvard.edu>
Subject: The Real Green Revolution: Organic and agroecological farming
in the South, Nicholas Parrott & Terry Marsden, Greenpeace Environmental
Trust
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:14:20 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From: "Soenke Zehle" <soenke.zehle@web.de>
To: <tparris@fas.harvard.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: The Real Green Revolution


Organic Agriculture for the South:

The new study "The Real Green Revolution: Organic and agroecological
farming
in the South" critically analyzes the potential of organic agriculture
in
the South. Includes many case studies. The authors conclude that
organic
agriculture is in fact a viable option for the South.

The study "The Real Green Revolution", by Nicholas Parrott & Terry
Marsden,
Cardiff University, GB, 2002, published by Greenpeace Environmental
Trust,
can be ordered for 24 EUR at IFOAM : headoffice@ifoam.org. Free !!!
Download
(PDF, 151 pages, 1.2 MB) at
http://www.blauen-institut.ch/Pg/pM/pm2/pm525.html




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End of ENVPUBS-L Digest 213
***************************

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 7 May 2002 11:26:38 -1000
From:    aniawieczorek <ania@HAWAII.EDU>
Subject: JOB ANNOUNCEMENT

DOCTORAL (PhD) POSITION (50% RA) IN ECOLOGICAL GENETICS
Funding for a 3-year PhD project is available through College of
Tropical Agriculture and Human Resources (CTAHR) at the Department of
Molecular Biosciences and Biosystems Engineering - MBBE
(http://www2.ctahr.hawaii.edu/depart/mbbe/ ), to study dispersal and
population genetics of invasive weeds.
This project aims to develop a model describing the dispersal
patterns of two invasive species in Hawaii, and to extend this model
to develop a management decision system for selecting appropriate
management approaches for invasive weeds in Hawaii. The project
presents an opportunity to use molecular population genetic methods
to address questions related to dispersal and gene flow in invasive
plants. This is primarily a lab-based project, therefore, experience
with molecular genetic methods and analyses (e.g. PCR, gel
electrophoresis, automated sequencing/genotyping) is desirable but
not essential. The candidate will work under supervision of Dr. Ania
Wieczorek (http://www2.hawaii.edu/~ania).
The Faculty at CTAHR provides an active and interesting research
environment housing number of active groups of ecologists,
geneticists, plant and environmental management biologists (see:
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/ctahr2001 for an overview).
Starting date is flexible, preferably in January 2003, and the salary
is for a 50% RA and includes a tuition waiver.
Applicants should provide a CV, including details of laboratory
experience, a list of undergraduate courses and grades, a maximum
1-page description of research interests, three letters of referees,
and desired start date.
There is no fixed application deadline, but position will be filled
once a suitable candidate is found. Potential applicants are
encouraged to submit their applications as soon as possible.
Applications, should be sent (preferably by e-mail) to Dr. Ania M
Wieczorek (ania@hawaii.edu)

Dr. Ania M. Wieczorek
Molecular Ecology & GMO extension.
Department of Molecular Biosciences Biosystems Engineering
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Honolulu, HI 96744
Phone: (808) 956-6596

--
Dr. Ania M. Wieczorek
Molecular Ecology & GMO extension.
Department of Molecular Biosciences Biosystems Engineering
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Honolulu, HI 96744
Phone: (808) 956-6596

------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 14:01:32 -1000
From:    Bethany L Woodworth <bethany_woodworth@USGS.GOV>
Subject: avian disease tech position in Hawaii

FIELD BIOLOGIST NEEDED for an NSF-funded study of the ecology and evolution
of avian disease in Hawaii. This is a 2-1/2-year, full-time position
beginning immediately. We are only able to consider applicants with
excellent mistnetting skills. Persons with proven experience bleeding
passerine birds by jugular venipuncture are especially encouraged to apply.
Field work will be conducted in 9 study areas on the eastern flank of Mauna
Loa Volcano on the island of Hawaii, ranging from sea level to 6000 ft
elevation. Field sites include lowland forest on rough a'a lava substrate,
where conditions are hot and muggy and mosquitoes are thick and voracious;
to wet rainforests at mid- and high-elevation sites that are cool, very
rainy, with difficult terrain, deep, eat-your-boots mud, and dense
vegetation. Biologist will be one of 4 biologists responsible for training,
supervision, morale and logistics for a field crew of 18 volunteer interns.
Field work includes mist netting, banding, and bleeding forest birds;
processing blood samples; conducting variable-circular plot (VCP) counts;
conducting vegetation sampling; measuring seasonal phenology of fruiting
and flowering plants; measuring indices of predator abundance; resighting
color-banded birds; and data entry and management. Minimum Requirements :
B.S. in Ecology, Wildlife, or related field; two years of field experience
(includes volunteer experience); proficiency in mist netting and banding
passerines and ability to train others to mist net; experience supervising
a field crew; willingness to learn to bleed birds using jugular
venipuncture; and full color vision and full hearing. Must have excellent
people skills, a positive attitude, teaching/mentoring skills, be willing
and able to hike several miles over rough a'a lava with backpack, and camp
in remote locations for up to 10 days at a time. Desirable qualifications :
experience with Hawaiian passerines and familiarity with Hawaiian forest
ecosystems; experience bleeding birds by jugular venipuncture; experience
conducting VCP or point counts. Salary appx. $22,800/yr plus benefits
(health, vacation, sick leave, retirement after 1(superscript: st) year,
camping per diem). Biologists will be based at Kilauea Field Station of the
Pacific Island Ecosystems Research Center, USGS-BRD in Hawaii Volcanoes
National Park. Please send cover letter, resume, and names and phone
numbers of three references to BETHANY WOODWORTH, Kilauea Field Station,
PIERC-USGS-BRD, P.O. Box 44, Hawaii National Park, HI 96718, Phone:
808-967-7396 x 237; FAX 808-967-8568; Bethany_Woodworth@usgs.gov Email
applications preferred. Position is open until filled.

------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 08:50:14 -0400
From:    Carole Coursolle <Carole.Coursolle@SBF.ULAVAL.CA>
Subject: Fluxnet-Canada Job Announcement

<bold>Network Manager - Fluxnet-Canada

</bold>

Description


Fluxnet-Canada, headquartered at Universite Laval (a French language
institution) in Quebec City, Canada, seeks a Network Manager.
Fluxnet-Canada is a newly funded, national research network studying the
influence of climate and disturbance on carbon cycling in forest and
peatland ecosystems. The Network manager will report directly to the
Board of Directors, work closely with the Scientific Program Leader and,
with the help of an assistant, be required to: 1) develop, coordinate and
monitor network scientific protocols, synthesis activities and the
network experiment plan; 2) summarize and disseminate scientific results;
3) assure the efficient and proper administrative and fiscal management
of the network; 4) assure efficient and proper communication between
management, participants and stakeholders; 5) assist with communications
activities (i.e. the quarterly newsletter), financial reports and
progress reports for the network.


Qualifications


Advanced degree in a field related to Fluxnet-Canada's science program.

Pertinent experience in the management of large research programs.

A working knowledge of French and English is required.


Duration


One year, renewable for up to five years.


Salary


$40,000 to $55,000 per year depending on experience, plus benefits.


To Apply


Send cover letter, CV and references by e-mail to:

        Dr. Hank Margolis

        Centre de Recherche en Biologie Forestičre

        Faculte de Foresterie et de Geomatique, Universite Laval

        Québec, QC, Canada, G1K 7P4

        e-mail: Fluxnet.Canada@sbf.ulaval.ca


Deadline


June 14, 2002

------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 08:22:22 -0400
From:    "Layton, Deborah" <LaytonD@WATER.DEP.NYC.NY.US>
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy

Your "unrealistic" example actually happens quite often.  To cite just one
example, Kraft Foods has factories in very small (5000 people) communities
in the Catskill Mountains.  For another, MeadWestvaco has a very large fine
paper plant in West Virginia in a similarly-sized community.  Despite having
no local market for these goods and rather poor infrastructure for
transporting them to large population centers, they exist in these remote
locations because of their proximity to the raw supplies that go into making
the goods (wood, dairy cattle).  Some firms choose to load their costs into
the transportation of the finished good rather than the raw material. The
use of the phrase "many people" in employment terms is subjective.  The
factories located in these tiny communities may, in fact, draw from a labor
pool within a 50-mile radius and employ far more people than the town,
itself, contains.  True, there is subsistence agriculture occurring in these
areas--and home gardens can contribute substantially to a family's
consumption--but it is not what really drives the local economy.  I'm afraid
that you're thinking too globally in your response to this issue, when the
real situation discussed is much closer to home.


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Stow [mailto:nstow5767@ROGERS.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:38 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy


This challenge was sent to Brian, but I'd like to take a stab at it.

The premise is unrealistic, posing a problem that doesn't exist.

Why would there be a factory in "a small remote community ...."  Being
small, the community offers no local market.  Being remote, it is poorly
situated for an external market.  Nor does it  "draw heavily on local raw
materials."  And given that the community is small, how can the factory
employ "many people?"

Here's a more likely scenario.  The people of a small, remote community in
an area of high biodiversity survive quite adequately and happily on
subsistence agriculture and small exports of natural forest products.  The
government of their country has accumulated a large national debt purchasing
arms to control its burgeoning, urban population and to protect itself from
its equally strained neighbors.  In order to improve the country's ability
to pay the interest on its debt, the IMF and World Bank loan the country
more money to develop an export-based economy, while imposing strict
controls over social, health and education expenditures.  With the new
money, the country subsidizes the development of large, new
coffee/tea/timber/cattle operations in the community, clearing the local
forest and expropriating the limited arable land.  With their traditional
economy destroyed, the people of the local community are forced to work for
the new landowners, upon whom they are now totally dependent.  This allows
the new corporate landowners to set wages at the bare minimum necessary for
survival and to ignore environmental and health regulations in the use of
pesticides, fertilizers, clean water, and child labor.  Furthermore, because
the new landowners are actually subsidiary corporations and ship their
product to their own multinational parents, they can sell at below market
rates or even for a loss.  This minimizes the tax payable to the indebted
country (if, indeed, the area hasn't been designated a tax-free zone) and
increases profits of the parent corporation.  The situation is acceptable to
the eventual consumer of the product because, without such conditions, the
rapidly expanding market for the product (i.e. expanding urban populations)
would force the its price to somewhere near its real ecological and social
cost.

How would you deal with this problem Ernie?

Now I'm going to cycle over to the Bridgehead coffee shop to spend a little
bit more money for some shade-grown, organic, Co-op produced coffee beans.

Nicholas

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU]On Behalf Of Arcologic@AOL.COM
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:07 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy


To Brian Czech,

I am sure you and I have the same purpose, but I am mystified by the
language.  Surely you don't intend to expand the proportion of the world's
population that lives in poverty, or even to hold it steady.

I am curious how you might handle a particular problem---

A small, remote community in an area rich in biodiversity has a factory that
provides a modest income for the community, mostly as semiskilled labor.
The
factory owners have decided to move the plant to another location, but might
be persuaded otherwise.  Would the WGSSE support closure of the plant, or
would you argue to keep it in place?  In this instance, would a shrinking
local economy be a beneficial change?

What of the alternative--suppose if the plant stays, the owners say they
intend to expand it's output?  (I assume that the plant does not draw
heavily
on local raw materials, but employs many people.)

If you have a clear vision of the ideal future, maybe you could explain how
it works in this example.

Ernie Rogers

------------------------------

Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 09:14:49 -0400
From:    Qing-Lai Dang <Qinglaidang@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: postdoc in tree ecophysiology- correction

The deadline for the following position is June 15th, 2002, not April =
15.  I apologize for the mistake in yesterday's posting.

One postdoctoral fellow position is available at Lakehead University to =
study the acclimation of boreal trees to climate change.  The study will =
consist of controlled experiments and intensive measurements of gas =
exchange and some modelling.  Please refer to =
http://giant.lakeheadu.ca/~qdang/research facility for the availability =
of research equipment.

The position is initially for one year, but renewable depending on =
performance.  The proposed starting date is September 1st, 2002.  Review =
of applications will start on April 15th, 2002 and continue until the =
position is filled.  If interested, please submit your CV and the names, =
emails, telephones and mailing addresses of three references to:=20

Qing-Lai Dang (Ph.D.)
Faculty of Forestry and the Forest Environment
Lakehead University
955 Oliver Road, Thunder Bay
Ontario, Canada P7B 5E1

Telephone: (807) 343-8238
Fax: (807) 343-8116
Web: http://giant.lakeheadu.ca/~qdang/

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 12:48:10 -0400
From:    Rosie Bolen <rbolen@WILSON.EDU>
Subject: job ad

Please forward this ad to anyone who might be interested.





Thank you,


Rosie Bolen


Assistant Professor of Biology


Wilson College














Visiting Assistant Professor/Instructor of Biology


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Wilson College, a growing private undergraduate college founded in1869,
committed to a woman-centered education and rigorous liberal arts and
sciences programs, invites applications for a one-year, full-time, Visiting
Assistant Professor/Instructor of Biology.   Doctoral degree preferred,
Master's degree considered.  Duties include teaching Contemporary Biology
(non-majors), Ecology, Introduction to Environmental Science, and
Invertebrate Zoology.  Successful candidates will demonstrate strong
interpersonal skills and a commitment to teaching excellence.  Position
begins August 2002; review of applications will begin immediately and
continue until the position is filled.



Send cover letter, statement of teaching philosophy, curriculum vitae,
transcript (copies accepted), and a list of three references to Mary
Hendrickson, Ph.D., Dean of the College, Wilson College, 1015 Philadelphia
Avenue, Chambersburg, PA 17201.

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 11:33:23 -0500
From:    "David J. Hicks" <DJHicks@MANCHESTER.EDU>
Subject: position announcement

MANCHESTER COLLEGE

                             Faculty Position

                            Biology Department

Position:  One-year, non-tenure track position, beginning September 1, 2002
.

Qualifications:  Masters required, Ph.D. preferred.  Evidence of successful
classroom teaching.

Responsibilities:   Primary teaching will be in the areas of invertebrate
zoology, environmental science, and introductory biology.  Ability to teach
in environmental education and/or aquatic ecology a plus.

Salary:  Dependent upon qualifications and experience.

General  Information:  Manchester  College  C  an independent, liberal arts
college  located  in North Manchester, Ind., and a college of the Church of
the  Brethren  C  offers  more  than  45  areas of study to more than 1,150
students from 23 states and 28 countries.  The College=s 72 faculty members
develop  one-on-one  relationships  with their students through small class
sizes  and  a  commitment  to teaching. Alumni/ae include Gene Likens, past
president  of the ESA; Andrew Cordier, one of the co-founders of the United
Nations;  Paul  Flory,  winner  of  the Nobel Prize for Chemistry; and Jane
Henney,  former  commissioner  of  the  U.S.  Food and Drug Administration.
Located  30  minutes  from  Fort  Wayne,  Ind.,  and  within three hours of
Chicago,  Indianapolis,  and Detroit, the campus combines access to diverse
urban centers with comfortable small town living.

Applications:   Review  of applications will begin May 1, 2002 and continue
until  position  is filled. Applicants who will help Manchester become more
diverse  are  warmly  welcome.   Send  substantial  letter  of  application
indicating  match  of experience and abilities to the College=s priorities,
curriculum  vitae,  names  of  3-5  professional references (with position,
address, phone number), and evidence of teaching effectiveness:

                          Dr. David Kreps, Chair
                           Department of Biology
                            Manchester College
                            604 E. College Ave.
                        North Manchester, IN 46962
                         Telephone:  260-982-5051
                            Fax:  260-982-5043

                         http://www.manchester.edu

                   Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer
                affiliated with the Church of the Brethren

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 12:12:20 -0500
From:    "La Follette, Doug" <Doug.LaFollette@SOS.STATE.WI.US>
Subject: Not nice

EXPOSING THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUGGERNAUT
http://www.odwyerpr.com/0506env.htm
  The National Center for Public Policy Research, a right-wing think
  tank, has launched a new website, envirotruth.org, to attack what
  it calls the "jihad" that environmental activists are waging
  against corporations. The NCPPR, which was formed in the 1980s to
  support terrorism by the Contras in Nicaragua, now says it has a
  mission to combat "ecoterrorism." By the way, NCPPR also sells its
  services to the tobacco industry. (Now isn't that a surprise!)
SOURCE: O'Dwyer's PR Daily, May 6, 2002
More web links related to this story are available at:
http://www.prwatch.org/spin/May_2002.html#1020657601


***********************************************************
Doug La Follette
Wisconsin Secretary of State
Box 7848, Madison, WI  53707
608-266-8888   fax 608-266-3159

"Technology is of no use to us if it is used without respect for the Earth
and its processes"
                                          -Aldo Leopold
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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 13:17:02 -0400
From:    Nicholas Stow <nstow5767@ROGERS.COM>
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy

Deborah,

Ernie replied to me with a similar example.  We appear to have different
understandings of a small community.  I tend to think in terms of northern
Alberta or the Ottawa Valley, where 5000 people is a substantial town or a
small city.

Ernie did initially say, however, that his hypothetical community "does not
draw heavily on local raw materials."  In your example and his, the
factories are located in remote areas specifically to exploit local raw
materials.

I agree that these towns face huge challenges, but I don't see how those
challenges relate to the goals of population control and a steady state
economy.  The towns are failing under conditions of population growth and
economic expansion.  Isn't the rapid growth in cheap, overseas labor often
the cause of the failure, allowing raw materials to be processed elsewhere
and eliminating value-added jobs?  Doesn't this, in turn, lead to pressure
on local industries to reduce production costs by skirting, ignoring or
attacking environmental regulations?

Without a continuously growing labor pool, corporations would eventually be
forced to pay their workers decent salaries. The economic advantage of
shipping raw materials overseas would diminish, and small towns might see
their industries revive.

Nicholas

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU]On Behalf Of Layton, Deborah
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:22 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: Announcement: Working Group for the Steady State Economy


Your "unrealistic" example actually happens quite often.  To cite just one
example, Kraft Foods has factories in very small (5000 people) communities
in the Catskill Mountains.  For another, MeadWestvaco has a very large fine
paper plant in West Virginia in a similarly-sized community.  Despite having
no local market for these goods and rather poor infrastructure for
transporting them to large population centers, they exist in these remote
locations because of their proximity to the raw supplies that go into making
the goods (wood, dairy cattle).  Some firms choose to load their costs into
the transportation of the finished good rather than the raw material. The
use of the phrase "many people" in employment terms is subjective.  The
factories located in these tiny communities may, in fact, draw from a labor
pool within a 50-mile radius and employ far more people than the town,
itself, contains.  True, there is subsistence agriculture occurring in these
areas--and home gardens can contribute substantially to a family's
consumption--but it is not what really drives the local economy.  I'm afraid
that you're thinking too globally in your response to this issue, when the
real situation discussed is much closer to home.

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 15:47:40 -0400
From:    TWEBER@DNR.STATE.MD.US
Subject: agricultural buffers around forest and wetlands

Dear all,

Much of the Mid-Atlantic Piedmont and Coastal Plain is composed of forested
and/or wetland areas in an agricultural matrix. Both forested areas (many of
them regrowth of abandoned farmland) and agriculture are rapidly being
converted to residential development. My questions are, how does agriculture
compare to residential housing as a buffer around forest or wetland
ecosystems? How severe are the additional impacts (e.g., noise, light,
exotic spp, pet predation, etc.) when farmland adjacent to natural forest is
converted to residential development? If farmland is retained as a buffer
around forest, how wide does this buffer need to be to minimize negative
impacts from developed areas? Are there any studies, especially in the
eastern U.S., that quantify these effects?

thanks,

Ted Weber
Landscape ecologist
Watershed Management and Analysis Division
Chesapeake and Coastal Watershed Service
Maryland Department of Natural Resources
580 Taylor Ave, E-2
Annapolis, MD 21401
phone: 410-260-8802
fax: 410-260-8779
email: tweber@dnr.state.md.us

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Visit http://www.ecologyfund.com/ to protect
wild land for free, just by clicking a button!
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(apologies for cross-postings)
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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 09:27:57 -1000
From:    Becky Ostertag <ostertag@HAWAII.EDU>
Subject: For researchers working in Hawaii

Aloha Fellow Researchers interested in Hawaii,

We are developing an NSF EPSCoR proposal for the State of Hawaii. The
overarching theme is "Biocomplexity in the Marine and Terrestrial
Environment". We are focusing on four subareas: Ecosystems, Invasive
Species, Evolutionary Genetics, and Bioinformatics/GIS/Remote Sensing.
One aspect of this proposal that NSF would like to see is that this
research area is interesting to other researchers outside of Hawaii, i.e.
it has national relevance. What we would like from those of you who do
research in Hawaii or have done it in the recent past is to answer a few
simple questions:

1. Provide your name and contact information (include your university or
agency)

2. Briefly describe your general research area (e.g. ecosystems, invasive
species, evolutionary genetics, bioinformatics/GIS/remote sensing). What is
one major hypothesis that you are examining?

3. Does your research occur mostly in the marine or terrestrial environment?

4. What Island(s) in Hawaii do you perform the majority of your research?

5. We are planning to develop four main components at both UH-Manoa and
UH-Hilo: better field stations, evolutionary genetics laboratory
facilities, environmental analytical laboratory facilities,
bioinformatics/GIS/remote sensing facilities. If you were provided with
reasonable access to some of these facilities would this allow you to
perform more research in Hawaii?

6. Do you currently collaborate with people in Hawaii? If yes, who.

7. Other comments.

Please respond by e-mail to Don Price, epscorpd@hawaii.edu.

*******************
Dr. Donald Price
Project Director - Hawaii NSF EPSCoR Program
Institute for Astronomy Building
640 N. A`ohoku Street #134
Hilo, HI 96720
phone: 808-933-3325
Fax: 808-933-3325
***
Associate Professor
Department of Biology - UH-Hilo
Ecology, Evolution & Conservation Biology
Graduate Program - UH-Manoa
200 W. Kawili St.
University of Hawaii
Hilo, HI 96720-4091
Office: 808-974-7365
Laboratory: 808-974-7626
Department (messages): 808-974-7383
fax number: 808-974-7693
email: donaldp@hawaii.edu




Rebecca Ostertag
Assistant Professor
Department of Biology
University of Hawaii at Hilo
200 W. Kawili Street
Hilo, HI  92720
ph: (808) 974-7361, fax: (808) 974-7693
ostertag@hawaii.edu

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 16:01:16 -0400
From:    EnviroNetwork@NATURALIST.COM
Subject: Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork

Title:   Administrative Assistant
Company: National Association of State PIRGs
Location: Santa Barbara, California
For more information click below:
http://www.environetwork.com/jobs/detail.cfm?temp=jobdetail&id=3119355

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 15:51:44 -0400
From:    NCSE List Manager <henderson@NCSEONLINE.ORG>
Subject: Invitation: Release of NCSE Conference Report

The National Council for Science and the Environment invites you to the
release of

Recommendations for ACHIEVING SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES: Science &
Solutions
The report of the 2nd National Conference on Science, Policy and the
Environment
Wednesday, May 22, 2002
3:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.
2318 Rayburn House Office Building

Come and learn the Top 10 Keys to achieve livable, secure and
sustainable communities and find out what it means to Think Locally and
Act Globally.

HONORED GUESTS
Hon. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ), Co-Chair and Hon. Earl Blumenauer
(D-OR), Chair Livable Communities Task Force

Hon. Jack Quinn (R-NY), Co-Chair Northeast Midwest Coalition

Hon. Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY), Chair House Science Committee

MODERATOR
Ambassador Richard Benedick, D.B.A. -- President, National Council for
Science and the Environment

PRESENTERS
A. Karim Ahmed, Ph.D -- President, Global Children's Environmental
Health Fund

David Blockstein, Ph.D -- Senior Scientist, National Council for Science
and the Environment

The conference report will be made available for online viewing at
http://www.NCSEonline.org/NCSEconference beginning at 3 p.m. on May 22

To receive a printed copy of the conference report, send your name and
mailing address to conference@NCSEonline.org  (reports will
automatically be sent to all registered participants in the conference)

If you would like to arrange for a briefing on the report for your
organization, please contact Therese Cluck Rese@NCSEonline.org

Please reserve the dates of January 30-31, 2003 for the third National
Conference on Science, Policy and the Environment: Education for a
Sustainable and Secure Future at the Ronald Reagan Building and
International Trade Center in Washington, DC.  See
http://www.cnie.org/NCSEconference/2003conference/

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 17:13:27 -0400
From:    Chris Maher <cmaher@USM.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: impacts of light and noise on wetland wildlife?

A national retail chain wants to build a superstore near a large
(~350 acre) wetland here in Maine (see
http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.html?id=21667).
Someone has approached me and asked for help in locating information
regarding the effects of light and noise, or other trappings of
civilization, on wildlife in wetlands and marshes. I've found a few
journal articles (mostly concerning effects of roads), but I'm asking
for leads from listserv members. I would be happy to summarize and
post the results, if people are interested.

Thanks,
Chris Maher
--
*************************
Christine R. Maher
Associate Professor of Biology
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Southern Maine
Portland, ME 04104-9300
Office: 207.780.4612
Fax: 207.228.8116

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 18:12:08 -0400
From:    Benjamin Stingle <bstingle@EMAIL.COM>
Subject: In Search of Tropical Fieldwork

I am a Harvard College graduate in biology, who is looking for a volunteer
position in tropical fieldwork.

I have traveled extensively to remote tropical areas, and have experience
in a wide variety of biological research, from plant genetics, to primate
behavior, to lobster neurobiology. Nature and ecology are a great love of
mine, and I have a strong desire to work out in the field. I am easy going
and a hard worker, and am very flexible as to the type of position I would
enjoy.

I am available any time after this August, would be willing to work for
longer than six months, and can finance my own airfare if necessary. Please
contact me if you might have an opportunity. Thank you very much.

Benjamin

Benjamin Stingle
20 West 64th St.
New York, NY 10023
617-215-1198
stingle@post.harvard.edu

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Date:    Wed, 8 May 2002 23:32:04 -0400
From:    Brian M Czech <brianczech@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Ernie's Excellent Question

Ernie Rogers has asked a great question, and Nicholas Stow put some good
thought into his answer.  I^Ňve generally answered it in Shoveling Fuel
for a Runaway Train, but the question is so important that it^Ňs worth a
response here.

Ernie says, ^ÓSurely you don't intend to expand the proportion of the
world's population that lives in poverty^Ĺ^Ô  Quite the opposite, and if
you read part 2 of Fuel you^Ňll know my strategy for simultaneously
attacking economic bloating and poverty.  You can also get an idea about
it from the free slide show I^Ňve uploaded at
http://sites.hsprofessional.com/brianczech/Figures.html.  At the bottom
of the page, Slide show # 3, Slide # 12 summarizes it in a single figure.
 (If you check it out, ^ÓK^Ô indicates carrying capacity, ^ÓP^Ô represents
the poverty line.)  I hate to sound evasive by referring you to other
documents, yet I can^Ňt rewrite the book every time there is a question
I^Ňve already answered.  There^Ňs this thing called carpal tunnel syndrome!

Alright, against my better judgment, I^Ňll put it in a nutshell, but of
course a lot is left out of a nutshell.  In a nutshell, simultaneously
attacking economic bloating and poverty entails a revolutionary (in terms
of magnitude and pace) shift in the American consumption ethic whereby
the current emulation of conspicuous consumption is replaced by an
equally powerful social stigmatization of conspicuous consumption.  This
results in ^Ótrickle-down consumption^Ô (no apologies to supply siders),
simultaneously cooling the whole kettle and redistributing its contents
into a more equitable mix.  Maslow^Ňs hierarchy of needs makes this a
viable socioeconomic outcome.  (This I won^Ňt elaborate here.)

The key to this whole process is educating the public on just a few, very
simple principles of ecological macroeconomics pertaining to economic
growth, especially the application of trophic theory to human economy.
With just a few of these principles, people will understand that ^ÓA
dollar spent is a dollar burned^Ô (i.e., a dollar^Ňs worth of natural
capital).  When they also realize that this natural capital is what is
required not just for ^Óthe environment^Ô or ^Ótreehuggers^Ô but for their
grandkids^Ň very security, the turning of the tables on conspicuous
consumption may begin.

I^Ňd also like to note that economic growth is not the answer to
decreasing ^Óthe proportion of the world's population that lives in
poverty^Ô because, as we continually encroach upon economic carrying
capacity, we are setting up an ever-higher proportion (and absolute
number) of the world's population for poverty.  But of course this
response doesn^Ňt say anything about what to do about it.  The steady
state revolution (described in the nutshell above) is something to do
about it.

As for the stance the WGSSE would take on Ernie^Ňs hypothetical situation;
that^Ňs the type of thing the WGSSE will wrestle with.  My input would be
that WGSSE should focus on macroeconomic policy (such as the Keynesian
policy on increasing aggregate demand) and stay out of microeconomic
scenarios (such as local community development).  My vision (which Ernie
asked for, and which is elaborated in Shoveling Fuel) includes producing
a consumption ethic that first tackles egregious consumption behavior
such as NASCAR, 5,000 square-foot vacation homes, and the construction of
more golf courses in the Sonoran Southwest.  I would leave the developing
communities alone at least until then.

Brian Czech
Www.steadystate.org


On Tue, 7 May 2002 00:07:25 EDT Arcologic@aol.com writes:
> To Brian Czech,
>
> I am sure you and I have the same purpose, but I am mystified by the
>
> language.  Surely you don't intend to expand the proportion of the
> world's
> population that lives in poverty, or even to hold it steady.
>
> I am curious how you might handle a particular problem---
>
> A small, remote community in an area rich in biodiversity has a
> factory that
> provides a modest income for the community, mostly as semiskilled
> labor.  The
> factory owners have decided to move the plant to another location,
> but might
> be persuaded otherwise.  Would the WGSSE support closure of the
> plant, or
> would you argue to keep it in place?  In this instance, would a
> shrinking
> local economy be a beneficial change?
>
> What of the alternative--suppose if the plant stays, the owners say
> they
> intend to expand it's output?  (I assume that the plant does not
> draw heavily
> on local raw materials, but employs many people.)
>
> If you have a clear vision of the ideal future, maybe you could
> explain how
> it works in this example.
>
> Ernie Rogers

Brian Czech
Arlington, VA
USA

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