ECOLOG-L Digest - 20 May 2001 to 21 May 2001
Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 20 May 2001 to 21 May 2001
There are 7 messages totalling 440 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. 2001 Training Workshops
2. Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story (3)
3. Instability of ordination programs.
4. GIS & Remote Sensing for Wildlife Managers
5. Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:39:37 -0500
From: Holly Nelson <holly_nelson@USGS.GOV>
Subject: 2001 Training Workshops
2001 TRAINING WORKSHOPS
U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
NATIONAL WETLAND RESEARCH CENTER &
MID-CONTINENT MAPPING CENTER
IN COOPERATION WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA AT LAFAYETTE
700 CAJUNDOME BLVD.
LAFAYETTE, LA. 70506-3154 PHONE (337) 266-8699
TRAINING/WORKSHOP FACILITY IS THE NWRC-ANNEX
CONTACT: pat_o'neil@usgs.gov WEBSITE: http://www.nwrc.usgs.go=
v
The U.S. Geological Survey of the Department of the Interior is present=
ing
a series of topical workshops pertaining to mapping, vegetation,
photo-interpretation, remote sensing and Geographical Information Syste=
ms.
The workshops are part of an effort to exchange information and provide=
access to spatial technologies developed at the center for natural reso=
urce
survey. The workshops are available to the general public educators, s=
tate
and federal agencies. Workshop participation by the international
community is also greatly encouraged. Workshop participants are eligib=
le
to receive continuing education units (CEU's) for a fee of $10 in addit=
ion
to the standard registration expense.
Most of the workshops are 3 days long, creating compact presentation of=
materials. No previous experience in any of the topical workshop is
assumed, except for advanced workshops. Appropriate handouts, photos,
maps, and other forms of distributed materials are provided to the work=
shop
participants. Some workshops will have scheduled field exercises.
Hands-on exercises are utilized to involve workshop participation.
Specialized workshop topics and transient workshops can be arranged bas=
ed
upon consultation and number of workshop participants. Scheduled works=
hops
are subject to change. Please contact the workshop coordinator at the
listed phone number for workshop information.
February 6-8 Introduction to National Wetlands Classificati=
on
System
March 13-15 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
April 24-26 Hydric Soils and Wetland Delineations
May 12 WETMAAP (Wetland Education through Maps and Aerial
Photography)
June 13 Introduction to Geospatial Control Information for
Natural Resources
June 19-21 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
June 20-21 Introduction to the Identification of Wetland
Forest Trees
July 17-18 Metadata for Geospatial Data
August 14-16 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
September 18-20 Introduction to GPS for Natural Resources
October 24-26 Introduction to Wetland Remote Sensing and Map=
ping
October 29-31 Advanced Wetland Photo-Interpretation
December 4-6 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
=
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:34:08 -0400
From: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
Subject: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
I thought that some of you might like to know that the Washington Post ran =
a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS mapmaker we heard so much =
earlier this year on the listserver.
Due to copyright laws, I cannot post the whole story here, but to read the =
story online, go to:
<<< http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001May20.
tml =
>>>
Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the story that those that =
have been written in the past couple of months.
-Alison
___________________
Alison Gillespie
Public Affairs Officer
Ecological Society of America
1707 H Street NW
Suite 400
Washington, DC 20006
202-833-8773 ext 211
alison@esa.org
fax: 202-833-8775=20
http://esa.sdsc.edu
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:37 -0500
From: MICHAEL W PALMER <carex@OSUUNX.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Instability of ordination programs.
The 'instability' problem in Decorana (and hence early versions of Canoco)
has been corrected in PC-ORD and Canoco.
However, any sort of classification algorithm (like TWINSPAN) is very
sensitive to the details of your data set. If you add or remove one
intermediate sample, your results can change dramatically. Since
classification of vegetation is inherently subjective and arbitrary, just
use whichever results from whichever technique you find most useful and
interpretable - but don't fall into the 'reification' trap of assuming
that vegetation classes have any sort of objective reality.
--Mike
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Lynne SheldonSayer wrote:
> Hi I am a Masters Student looking at plant communities on an
> Island in New Zealand. My Supervisor suggested using Twinspan.
> However another person suggested that it is susceptible to
> extreme instability and suggested that i use Canoco. I have read
> the article by Oksananen and Minchin and visited the website
> mentioned in this article. I am now confused as to which would be
> the best way to analysis my data. I would appreciate any
> comments about these programs positive or negative. Thanks
> Lynne.
>
>
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> ---------------
> Lynne Sheldon-Sayer BSc (Hons) MSc in progress
> Ecology and Entomology Group
> Lincoln University
> PO Box 84
> Lincoln
> Canterbury
> New Zealand
>
________________________________________
Michael W. Palmer
Department of Botany 104 LSE
Oklahoma State University
Stillwater, OK 74078 USA
carex@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu
Office phone: 405-744-7717 FAX: 405-744-7074
ordination web page: www.okstate.edu/artsci/botany/ordinate
________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:03:00 -0000
From: Peter Leimgruber <crcgis@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: GIS & Remote Sensing for Wildlife Managers
<html><DIV>The Smithsonian Institution's Conservation & Rese
rch Center is
hosting an Introduction to the use of Geographic Information Systems &
Remote Sensing in Conservation and Wildlife Management training course. Thi
is
a one-week course and is offered June 18-22.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Increasingly, Geographic Information Systems (GIS) and Remote Sen
ing have
become important tools for decision making and the applied management of
natural resources. Many federal agencies and NGO's rely on GIS and satellit
data for their work and are starting to produce their own spatial databases
However, there are few training opportunities for wildlife managers to lear
the application of GIS in everyday management situations. Our course will
provide hands-on experience for the collection of data, GIS analysis of the
data, and map making. </DIV>
<P>This short course will provide wildlife managers with a working kno
ledge
about the application of Geographic Information Systems (GIS) and Remote
Sensing to the monitoring and management of wildlife and forest vegetation.
Exercises in establishing locations with a Global Positioning System (GPS),
data input into a GIS, and spatial analysis techniques for GIS will provide
hands-on and real world experience during the course. Based on examples abo
t
habitat selection in songbirds and white-tailed deer, course participants w
ll
learn how to: </P>
<DIV></DIV>-Collect GIS data in the field using survey technique
and GPS
<DIV></DIV>-Differentially correct GPS data
<DIV></DIV>-Input GPS data into GIS
<DIV></DIV>-Input field data into GIS
<DIV></DIV>-Use GIS for management of large data sets from multi
le sources
<DIV></DIV>-Design and perform analysis using GIS data and spati
l analysis
techniques.
<DIV></DIV>-Integrate data with ancillary data, such as satellit
imagery,
aerial photography, and State Agency databases.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Please see our web page for more information:
http://www.si.edu/crc/tp/tp_gis/tp_gis.htm
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:00:30 -0400
From: EnviroNetwork@NATURALIST.COM
Subject: Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
Title: Summer Naturalist
Company: Montecito Sequoia
Location: Kings Canyon National Park, California
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3813
Title: Environmental Planner
Company: Wilbur Smith Associates, Inc.
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3812
Title: Environmental, Health & Safety Auditor
Company: Parker Hannifin
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3811
Title: Project Manager / PM-0521
Company: Vanasse, Hangen, Brustlin, Inc
Location: Watertown, Massachusetts
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3810
Title: Director of Energy Services / DES 0521
Company: Vanasse, Hangen, Brustlin, Inc
Location: Watertown, Massachusetts
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3809
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:20:48 -0700
From: "Bob Parcelles,Jr." <rjparcelles@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
--- Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG> wrote:
I thought that some of you might like to know that
the Washington Post ran =
a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS
mapmaker we heard so much =
earlier this year on the listserver.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001May20.html
Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the
story that those that
have been written in the past couple of months.
-Alison
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---------------Allison
and all,
This 'rebutttal" is old news by a very inexperienced
reporter. All of his myths have been debunked. Any
one involved in science can surely see the trend in
this administation to short -fund and otherwise make
it difficult for scientists who work in the
environmental fields. The Cheney White House (you
better believe it ) talks about getting the facts and
"making decisions based on science". But the
scientists used are usually on the big business
payroll. Government scientists and consultants (I am
one) are givern narrow parameters. We need basic as
well as apllied science and applied science must seek
the truth no matter what its bias.
Bob Parcelles, Jr.
RJP Associates
Pinellas Park, FL
TRY THESE LINKS FOR THE REST OF THE STORY...
http://www.peer.org
or this one for large graphics and maps:
http://www.peer.org/anwr
=====
Bob Parcelles, Jr
Pinellas Park, FL
RJP Associates <rjpassociates@yahoo.com>
rjparcelles@yahoo.com
http://rainforest.care2.com/welcome?w=976131876
"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."
Confucius
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:09:32 -0400
From: Chris Rosamond <kiwdafish@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
So the spin from both sides begins...
As one who lost his job while blowing the whistle on a major water quality
fraud which was perpetrated by a "respectable" consulting firm, I am all too
familiar with the slander tactics which both news media and the "respectable
bosses" dealing with "unruly employees" are willing to toss about.
Nonetheless, I have no Idea what really happened to Ian.
None of us on the outside of this story will know exactly what happened to
Ian Thomas, nor who made the termination decisions, nor why. Ian made a
decision which cost him his livelihood. His supervisors likewise made
decisions which will affect international opinion, and ANWR. Is there a bad
guy? Or just a mishmash of different people doing what they consider to be
the right thing?
And, finally, what does Ian's shaving ability have to do with impartial
press coverage?
Chris Rosamond,
Aquatic Biologist and sometime whistleblower/untalented shaver.
>From: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
>Reply-To: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
>To: ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
>Subject: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:34:08 -0400
>
>I thought that some of you might like to know that the Washington Post r
n
>=
>a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS mapmaker we heard so mu
h
>=
>earlier this year on the listserver.
>
>Due to copyright laws, I cannot post the whole story here, but to read t
e
>=
>story online, go to:
>
>
><<< http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001Ma
20.html =
> >>>
>
>Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the story that those that
>have been written in the past couple of months.
>
>-Alison
>
>
>
>___________________
>
>Alison Gillespie
>Public Affairs Officer
>Ecological Society of America
>1707 H Street NW
>Suite 400
>Washington, DC 20006
>202-833-8773 ext 211
>alison@esa.org
>fax: 202-833-8775=20
>http://esa.sdsc.edu
_________________________________________________________________
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Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 17 May 2001 to 18 May 2001
There are 7 messages totalling 446 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Subject: Houston Article on Drilling in Public Lands
2. Ducks Unlimited, Inc - Intern Position
3. Multiple DO and pH measurement
4. How many fishes are there? (2)
5. NSF Workshops on Curriculum Development in Environmental Science for
Undergraduate Faculty
6. sapflow in pines
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:53:33 -0400
From: "David W. Inouye" <di5@umail.umd.edu>
Subject: Subject: Houston Article on Drilling in Public Lands
From: "Alison Gillespie" <Alison@esa.org>
To: ecolog-l@umdd.umd.edu
Subject: Houston Article on Drilling in Public Lands
FYI:
As a follow up to the string a few days ago about oil drilling and public =
lands, there is an interesting story on the topic in the Houston Chronicle.=
To read it, go to:
<< http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/business/913007 >>.
___________________
Alison Gillespie
Public Affairs Officer
Ecological Society of America
1707 H Street NW
Suite 400
Washington, DC 20006
202-833-8773 ext 211
alison@esa.org
fax: 202-833-8775=20
http://esa.sdsc.edu
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:03:45 -0000
From: Grace Bottitta <gracebottitta@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Ducks Unlimited, Inc - Intern Position
Ducks Unlimited, Inc - Intern Position
Ducks Unlimited, Inc, the continent's leading wetland conservation
organization, is seeking qualified candidates for an intern position at our
national headquarters in Memphis, Tennessee. This position will entail
several duties such as serving as the primary contact for conservation
inquires, assisting with special outreach programs and events, and
conducting an independent project. Additionally, this position will provide
support for Conservation staff that may include topic research, data
analysis and interpretation, proposal/grant writing, desktop publishing and
presentation preparation.
A successful candidate will have a minimum of a Bachelors degree, have a
strong background in waterfowl and/or wetlands issues, and be available for
employment immediately. The individual must demonstrate the ability to work
independently. Additionally, strong written and oral communication skills
are necessary.
This full-time, one-year intern position will be located at Ducks Unlimited,
Inc in Memphis Tennessee. The position will pay a stipend of $1300 per
month. Please send a resume and letter describing your qualifications to
Tina Yerkes, Research Scientist, Ducks Unlimited, Inc, One Waterfowl Way,
Memphis TN or email tyerkes@ducks.org
Deadline for submission of materials is 15 June 2001
Ducks Unlimited, Inc is an Equal Opportunity Employer
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:29:54 -0400
From: Len Scinto <scintol@FIU.EDU>
Subject: Multiple DO and pH measurement
Hello Ecologgers:
I would like to ask if anyone has experience simultaneously (or in rapid
succession) recording pH and DO from several aquatic chambers located in
wetlands. We would like to run several combination probes into a
multiplexer then into one meter which feeds output to a datalogger which
concurrently controls the switching of the multiplexer. I know Diamond
General makes equipment like this so if anyone has experience with DG
equipment I would appreciate a response. Any suggestions on other
suppliers? The new Orion field meters do not (to my knowledge) have analog
output which is needed if the Campbell Scientific Datalogger is going to be
used to control and log measurements. Thank you in advance for replies.
Len Scinto
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:06:16 -0600
From: David Board <dboard@UALBERTA.CA>
Subject: Re: How many fishes are there?
I would not recommend this as a quiz question unless you ask the students to
support their decision completely. Here's why.
I would argue that both researcher B and C have a legitimate argument for
their answer or that there both wrong and you could argue for either one as
a reasonable estimate. First off the data we have is nested, samples within
days.
Researcher B essentially assumes that all the variance between days is due
differences between days and none of it is due to sample. In other words
120 fish went up the river on day one and 245.3 went up the river on day two
and on average 182.65 fish went up the river per day. We know this is false
because the hours sampled were not equal for each day so some of the
difference between these estimates is due to sampling error. Researcher C
assumes that all the variance between days is due to sampling. In other
words 195.2 fish went up the river on both days the apparent differenence is
due to the difference in sampling. We don't know that the number of fish
going up the river weren't equal but its probably a good bet that the
number of fish were different each day.
So both B and C are incorrect but I would probably choose C if I had no
reason to believe the variation between days would be large and if there was
likely to be no pattern in this variation. In the end the true answer
probably lies between B and C's answer.
Mixed effect modeling (or hierarchical modeling if you prefer) is capable of
estimating a compromise between the two methods and I would be tempted to
use this technique if the variation attributable to days was large but not
on a quiz.
Well there's two cents from a student.
DaveB
David Board
Masters Student
University of Alberta
Edmonton Alberta T6G 2E9
dboard@ualberta.ca
CANADA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toshihide Hamazaki" <toshihide_hamazaki@fishgame.state.ak.us>
To: <ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: How many fishes are there?
> Ecologers,
>
> Recently, I had a good discussion with my colleague about estimating
number
> of fish, and I would like to share with you. This quiz is good for your
> students.
>
> Here is the situation.
> A group of researchers want to know how many salmons run up a river ove
a
> season. To estimate, they set a gillnet twice a day for several hours a
d
> counted the number of fish caught. The data looks like this:
>
> Day period # of fish hours cpue
> caught gillnet (#fish/hours)
> was set
> 1 1 10 1 10
> 1 2 5 2 2.5
> 2 1 6 4 1.5
> 2 2 40 0.5 80
>
> Based on the data total number of salmons over 2 days were estimated.
> However, each researchers used different estimation methods.
>
> Researcher A estimated
> Total salmon = 24*(mean cpue for day 1)+ 24*(mean cpue for day 2)
> = 24*[(10+2.5)/2]+24*[(1.5+80)/2] = 1128
>
> Researcher B estimated
> Total salmon = 24*(mean cpue for day 1)+ 24*(mean cpue for day 2)
> = 24*[(10+5)/(1+2)]+24*[(6+40)/(4+0.5)] = 365.3
>
> Researcher C estimated
> Total salmon = 24*2*(mean cpue for 2 days)
> = 24*2*[(10+5+6+40)/(1+2+4+0.5)] = 390.4
>
> As you see, estimation differed widely.
> Whose estimate is correct?
>
>
> Toshihide Hamazaki / Hamachan
>
> Alaska Department of Fish & Game
> Commercial Fisheries Division
> 333 Raspberry Rd.
> Anchorage Alaska 99518
> Ph: 907-267-2158
> Fax: 907-267-2442
> e-mail: toshihide_hamazaki@fishgame.state.ak.us
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:18:09 -0400
From: "Daniel E. Buckley" <Buckley@MAINE.EDU>
Subject: NSF Workshops on Curriculum Development in Environmental Science fo
Undergraduate Faculty
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following regional leaders for information about their workshop.
Dr. Dan Buckley
Department of Natural Sciences
173 High Street
University of Maine at Farmington
Farmington, ME 04938
Buckley@maine.edu
207-778-7395
Fax:: 207-778-7365
Workshop Dates: Mon, June 25 =96 Fri, June 29, 2001
For further information on the UMF Workshop e-mail questions to the above=20
address or visit the following URL
http://violet.umf.maine.edu/~buckley/UMF%20brochure.htm
Dr. Assad Panah
Professor and Director
Department of Geology and Environmental Science
University of Pittsburgh at Bradford
300 Campus Drive
Bradford, PA 16701
E-mail: aap@pitt.edu
Phone: 814-362-7569
Fax: 814-362-5088
Dates: Sat, July 28 =96 Wed, August 1, 2001
For further information contact Dr. Panah by e-mail
Dr. Frank Romano
Department of Biology
Jacksonville State University
700 Pelham Road North
Jacksonville, AL 36265-1602
Tel: 256-782-5038
Fax: 256-782-5587
E-mail: fromano@jsucc.jsu.edu
Dates: Wed, August 8 =96 Sun, August 12, 2001
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Professor of Biology
Department of Natural Sciences
University of Maine at Farmington
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Jacksonville State University<br>
700 Pelham Road North<br>
Jacksonville, AL 36265-1602<br>
Tel: 256-782-5038<br>
Fax: 256-782-5587<br>
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:52:02 -0700
From: Phil Nott <pnott@BIRDPOP.ORG>
Subject: Re: How many fishes are there?
Hmmmm
If any of the three estimates were to be taken seriously the salmon
would be in big trouble - insufficient sample size, no control for
diurnal behavior patterns, shall I go on? You might as well count
pregnant chad in Florida you'd get the same variance in the estimates.
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Philip Nott
Research Scientist
The Institute for Bird Populations
P.O. Box 1346, Point Reyes Station
CA 94956-1346
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:15:07 -0400
From: Fardad Firouznia <firouznia@DENISON.EDU>
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Hi all.
Has anybody used the dynamax TDP sap flow probes? Any recommendations?
I'm looking for probes that work well in pines.
Thanks for the help.
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Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 18 May 2001 to 19 May 2001
There are 3 messages totalling 416 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Fw: Job vacancy
2. Fw: [ee-internet] EE Job Seekers (or Friends of...)
3. Coastal Management Internet Awards
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:29:17 -0400
From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Fw: Job vacancy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Tenner" <clare@vertic.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:42 PM
Subject: Job vacancy
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> Dear Climate-L,
>
> Apologies for Cross-postings
>
> Please see below, advertisement for a new Environment Researcher for
VERTIC.
> Further information is available on VERTIC's website at
> www.vertic.org/jobs/researcher
>
> Please distribute on your lists as appropriate.
>
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> RESEARCHER - VERIFICATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL AGREEMENTS
>
> Applications are invited for a researcher to conduct policy-relevant
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:30:10 -0400
From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Fw: [ee-internet] EE Job Seekers (or Friends of...)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katharine N. Wang"
The updated list below contains job opportunities posted on EE-Link
(http://eelink.net) between 5/1/01 and 5/15/01. This list will be
generated twice a month and reposted.
The list represents only the newest job postings on EE-Link and
summarizes
position offered, hiring organization, location of job, and application
deadline (if supplied). For detailed information and a complete listing,
go to the EE-Link job posting page (jobs can be sorted by state or
region to
make searching easier):
http://eelink.net/cgi-bin/ee-link/view_jobs.cgi
Job Postings added to EE-Link since May 1, 2001
Education Program Director
Aquatic Outreach Institute
Richmond, CA
Posted: 5-1-2001
Executive Director
Tanglewood Nature Center
Horsehead, NY
Posted: 5-1-2001
Program Coordinator
Frost Valley YMCA
Clayville, NY
Deadline: 7-1-2001
5th Grade Nature Teacher
Greenwood School
Mill Valley, CA
Deadline: 6-8-2001
Mohican Workshops Manager
Appalachian Mountain Club
Boston, MA
Deadline: 7-1-2001
Assistant Director
Shaver's Creek Environmental Center
University Park, PA
Posted: 5-1-2001
Fall EE Internship
Badlands National Park
Interior, SD
Deadline: 7-15-2001
Administrative Intern
Gore Range Natural Science School
Red Cliff, CO
Posted: 5-5-2001
Fundraising & Marketing Coordinator
Gore Range Natural Science School
Red Cliff, CO
Posted: 5-5-2001
Environmental/Outdoor Education Instructor
Mountain Trail Outdoor School
Hendersonville, NC
Deadline: 8-1-2001
Teacher/Organic Gardener
Crown Point Ecology Center
Bath, OH
Deadline: 6-15-2001
Public Programs & Special Events Director
Kalamazoo Nature Center
Kalamazoo, MI
Posted: 5-7-2001
Co-Director, Nature's Way Preschool
Kalamazoo Nature Center
Kalamazoo, MI
Deadline: 6-30-2001
Intern Naturalist
Woodleaf Outdoor School
Yuba City, CA
Deadline: 7-30-2001
Information, Outreach, & Development Coordinator
The Institute for Bird Populations
Point Reyes Station, CA
Posted: 5-8-2001
Program Director
INFORM's Solid Waste Prevention Program
New York, NY
Posted: 5-8-2001
Coordinator (2)
Student Environmental Action Coalition (SEAC)
Philadelphia, PA
Posted: 5-8-2001
Summer Internship in Urban Ecosystem Education
Parks & People Foundation
Baltimore, MD
Posted: 5-8-2001
Project Regeneration Crew Supervisor
Marin Conservation Corps
San Rafael, CA
Deadline: 5-25-2001
Assistant to the Director I
UCLA LOSH, Labor, Occupational, Safety, & Health Program
Los Angeles, CA
Deadline: 5-25-2001
Program Manager
Denison University
Granville, OH
Deadline: 6-15-2001
Economist
National Marine Fisheries Service
Southeast Fisheries Science Center
Miami, FL
Deadline: 5-18-2001
Student Affairs Manager
The School for Field Studies
Center for Rainforest Studies
Queensland, Australia
Deadline: 8-15-2001
Education Coordinator II
Massachusetts Audubon Society
Belmont, MA
Posted: 5-10-2001
Education Coordinator
Massachusetts Audubon Society
Norfolk, MA
Posted: 5-10-2001
Ecology Consultant
Girl Scouts of Swift Water Council
Manchester, NH
Deadline: 6-10-2001
Mentor & Community Programs Manager
John G. Shedd Aquarium
Chicago, IL
Deadline: 6-1-2001
AmeriCorps Member
AmeriCorps - Cape Cod
Barnstable, MA
Deadline: 8-23-2001
Naturalist Intern / Summer Camp Counselor
Marin County Outdoor School at Walker Creek Ranch
Petaluma, CA
Deadline: 6-1-2001
Naturalist Intern
Marin County Outdoor School at Walker Creek Ranch
Petaluma, CA
Deadline: 6-1-2001
Garden Intern
Marin County Outdoor School at Walker Creek Ranch
Petaluma, CA
Deadline: 6-1-2001
Interpretive Specialist
California State Parks
Jenner, CA
Deadline: 5-17-2001
Consultant in Environment & Forest/Tourism
Planning Commission
New Delhi, India
Posted: 5-15-2001
Director of Training Programs & Youth Civic Action Network
Youth CAN, Youth Service America
Washington, DC
Posted: 5-15-2001
Extension Agent
Virginia Cooperative Extension
Blacksburg, VA
Posted: 5-15-2001
Program Leader I
Houston Independent School District's Outdoor Education Center
Trinity, TX
Posted: 5-15-2001
Exhibits Designer
Missouri Department of Conservation
Jefferson City, MO
Deadline: 6-1-2001
Director of Science & Education
Great Lakes Aquarium
Minneapolis, MN
Posted: 5-15-2001
Detailed information for each of these positions is posted at the
EE-Link
job posting page:
http://eelink.net/cgi-bin/ee-link/view_jobs.cgi
Visit http://eelink.net/ for your EE Needs.
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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 14:49:50 -0700
From: Arlo Hanlin Hemphill <antisana@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Coastal Management Internet Awards
The first ICOAST AWARDS 2001
It's time to RECOGNISE, APPLAUD and SALUTE YOUR PEERS.
A special icoast calling for nominations for the
world's first awards for
achievement in coastal management internet sites.
Have you ever visited a coastal website and thought
'those guys really do a good job, I wish I could give
them something back'. Well now you can!
Nominate them for an icoast award. Go to:
http://www.coastalmanagement.com/nomination1.html
The categories are:
1 Exceptional Government Coastal Management Website:
recognises a government website which contributes open
and accountable services to the people in the area of
coastal management
2 Inspirational Community Coastal Management Website:
recognises a community website that provides
outstanding and inspirational services towards a
community coastal management cause
3 Academic Leadership in Coastal Management Website:
recognises leadership in promoting continuous
improvement and delivery of education and research in
Coastal Management.
4 Excellence in Integrated Coastal Management Website:
recognises a website which contributes most
significantly to the promotion of integrated coastal
management
5 People's Choice '2001 Coastal Management Website of
the Year Award'.
An expert judging panel drawn from coastal managers
from around the world will use the following judging
criteria.
Functionality and Design (20%): Accessibility, HTML
Quality, Speed &
Bandwidth, Sensitivity and Navigation, User
Friendliness, Aesthetics &
Beauty, Alignment & Layout
Content (50%): Clearly defined website goals and
message, Natural Human
Interactivity, Well designed presentation of complex
information, Use of
plain english and attention to detail; Specific
contribution to coastal
management
Originality (20%): Innovation; Creativity; Effective
use of leading edge
technologies; Distinctiveness; Vision
Professionalism & Effectiveness (10%): Customer
Service & Client Respect including ease of contact &
responsiveness and management of requests & complaints
from users
Winners will not be showered with fame and glory (or
money!). Instead
winners will know that their work is both appreciated
and judged as exceptional by their coastal management
peers. Winners will also be able to sport an icoast
awards logo on their website.
Want to send in a nomination? Easy, just fill in the
nomination form at:
http://www.coastalmanagement.com/nomination1.html
To learn more about the awards and our expert judges
go to:
http://www.coastalmanagement.com/awards2001/awards2001.html
Nominations close on 30 June 2001 - so don't miss out.
Remember, it's a chance to applaud our colleagues'
efforts in the world of coastal management and the
Internet.
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Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 19 May 2001 to 20 May 2001
There are 2 messages totalling 52 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Lesser long-nosed bat
2. Instability of ordination programs.
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:17:57 -0700
From: Debbie Brewer <dabbrewer@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Lesser long-nosed bat
Greetings all,
Could anyone offer advice as to how I could find out
the call frequency of the lesser long-nosed bat?
Debbie A Brewer
ASU Environmental Resources
Wildlife/habitat management
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:29:29 +1200
From: Lynne SheldonSayer <Sheldol1@LINCOLN.AC.NZ>
Subject: Instability of ordination programs.
Hi I am a Masters Student looking at plant communities on an
Island in New Zealand. My Supervisor suggested using Twinspan.
However another person suggested that it is susceptible to
extreme instability and suggested that i use Canoco. I have read
the article by Oksananen and Minchin and visited the website
mentioned in this article. I am now confused as to which would be
the best way to analysis my data. I would appreciate any
comments about these programs positive or negative. Thanks
Lynne.
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Lynne Sheldon-Sayer BSc (Hons) MSc in progress
Ecology and Entomology Group
Lincoln University
PO Box 84
Lincoln
Canterbury
New Zealand
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Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 20 May 2001 to 21 May 2001
There are 7 messages totalling 440 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. 2001 Training Workshops
2. Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story (3)
3. Instability of ordination programs.
4. GIS & Remote Sensing for Wildlife Managers
5. Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:39:37 -0500
From: Holly Nelson <holly_nelson@USGS.GOV>
Subject: 2001 Training Workshops
2001 TRAINING WORKSHOPS
U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
NATIONAL WETLAND RESEARCH CENTER &
MID-CONTINENT MAPPING CENTER
IN COOPERATION WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA AT LAFAYETTE
700 CAJUNDOME BLVD.
LAFAYETTE, LA. 70506-3154 PHONE (337) 266-8699
TRAINING/WORKSHOP FACILITY IS THE NWRC-ANNEX
CONTACT: pat_o'neil@usgs.gov WEBSITE: http://www.nwrc.usgs.go=
v
The U.S. Geological Survey of the Department of the Interior is present=
ing
a series of topical workshops pertaining to mapping, vegetation,
photo-interpretation, remote sensing and Geographical Information Syste=
ms.
The workshops are part of an effort to exchange information and provide=
access to spatial technologies developed at the center for natural reso=
urce
survey. The workshops are available to the general public educators, s=
tate
and federal agencies. Workshop participation by the international
community is also greatly encouraged. Workshop participants are eligib=
le
to receive continuing education units (CEU's) for a fee of $10 in addit=
ion
to the standard registration expense.
Most of the workshops are 3 days long, creating compact presentation of=
materials. No previous experience in any of the topical workshop is
assumed, except for advanced workshops. Appropriate handouts, photos,
maps, and other forms of distributed materials are provided to the work=
shop
participants. Some workshops will have scheduled field exercises.
Hands-on exercises are utilized to involve workshop participation.
Specialized workshop topics and transient workshops can be arranged bas=
ed
upon consultation and number of workshop participants. Scheduled works=
hops
are subject to change. Please contact the workshop coordinator at the
listed phone number for workshop information.
February 6-8 Introduction to National Wetlands Classificati=
on
System
March 13-15 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
April 24-26 Hydric Soils and Wetland Delineations
May 12 WETMAAP (Wetland Education through Maps and Aerial
Photography)
June 13 Introduction to Geospatial Control Information for
Natural Resources
June 19-21 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
June 20-21 Introduction to the Identification of Wetland
Forest Trees
July 17-18 Metadata for Geospatial Data
August 14-16 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
September 18-20 Introduction to GPS for Natural Resources
October 24-26 Introduction to Wetland Remote Sensing and Map=
ping
October 29-31 Advanced Wetland Photo-Interpretation
December 4-6 Introduction to Desktop GIS (ArcView) for Natu=
ral
Resources
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:34:08 -0400
From: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
Subject: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
I thought that some of you might like to know that the Washington Post ran =
a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS mapmaker we heard so much =
earlier this year on the listserver.
Due to copyright laws, I cannot post the whole story here, but to read the =
story online, go to:
<<< http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001May20.
tml =
>>>
Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the story that those that =
have been written in the past couple of months.
-Alison
___________________
Alison Gillespie
Public Affairs Officer
Ecological Society of America
1707 H Street NW
Suite 400
Washington, DC 20006
202-833-8773 ext 211
alison@esa.org
fax: 202-833-8775=20
http://esa.sdsc.edu
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:37 -0500
From: MICHAEL W PALMER <carex@OSUUNX.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Instability of ordination programs.
The 'instability' problem in Decorana (and hence early versions of Canoco)
has been corrected in PC-ORD and Canoco.
However, any sort of classification algorithm (like TWINSPAN) is very
sensitive to the details of your data set. If you add or remove one
intermediate sample, your results can change dramatically. Since
classification of vegetation is inherently subjective and arbitrary, just
use whichever results from whichever technique you find most useful and
interpretable - but don't fall into the 'reification' trap of assuming
that vegetation classes have any sort of objective reality.
--Mike
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Lynne SheldonSayer wrote:
> Hi I am a Masters Student looking at plant communities on an
> Island in New Zealand. My Supervisor suggested using Twinspan.
> However another person suggested that it is susceptible to
> extreme instability and suggested that i use Canoco. I have read
> the article by Oksananen and Minchin and visited the website
> mentioned in this article. I am now confused as to which would be
> the best way to analysis my data. I would appreciate any
> comments about these programs positive or negative. Thanks
> Lynne.
>
>
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> ---------------
> Lynne Sheldon-Sayer BSc (Hons) MSc in progress
> Ecology and Entomology Group
> Lincoln University
> PO Box 84
> Lincoln
> Canterbury
> New Zealand
>
________________________________________
Michael W. Palmer
Department of Botany 104 LSE
Oklahoma State University
Stillwater, OK 74078 USA
carex@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu
Office phone: 405-744-7717 FAX: 405-744-7074
ordination web page: www.okstate.edu/artsci/botany/ordinate
________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:03:00 -0000
From: Peter Leimgruber <crcgis@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: GIS & Remote Sensing for Wildlife Managers
<html><DIV>The Smithsonian Institution's Conservation & Rese
rch Center is
hosting an Introduction to the use of Geographic Information Systems &
Remote Sensing in Conservation and Wildlife Management training course. Thi
is
a one-week course and is offered June 18-22.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Increasingly, Geographic Information Systems (GIS) and Remote Sen
ing have
become important tools for decision making and the applied management of
natural resources. Many federal agencies and NGO's rely on GIS and satellit
data for their work and are starting to produce their own spatial databases
However, there are few training opportunities for wildlife managers to lear
the application of GIS in everyday management situations. Our course will
provide hands-on experience for the collection of data, GIS analysis of the
data, and map making. </DIV>
<P>This short course will provide wildlife managers with a working kno
ledge
about the application of Geographic Information Systems (GIS) and Remote
Sensing to the monitoring and management of wildlife and forest vegetation.
Exercises in establishing locations with a Global Positioning System (GPS),
data input into a GIS, and spatial analysis techniques for GIS will provide
hands-on and real world experience during the course. Based on examples abo
t
habitat selection in songbirds and white-tailed deer, course participants w
ll
learn how to: </P>
<DIV></DIV>-Collect GIS data in the field using survey technique
and GPS
<DIV></DIV>-Differentially correct GPS data
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<DIV></DIV>-Design and perform analysis using GIS data and spati
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<DIV></DIV>-Integrate data with ancillary data, such as satellit
imagery,
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:00:30 -0400
From: EnviroNetwork@NATURALIST.COM
Subject: Environmental Job Openings from EnviroNetwork
Title: Summer Naturalist
Company: Montecito Sequoia
Location: Kings Canyon National Park, California
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3813
Title: Environmental Planner
Company: Wilbur Smith Associates, Inc.
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3812
Title: Environmental, Health & Safety Auditor
Company: Parker Hannifin
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3811
Title: Project Manager / PM-0521
Company: Vanasse, Hangen, Brustlin, Inc
Location: Watertown, Massachusetts
For more information click below:
http://www.naturalist.com/eco-jobs/index.cfm?temp=job&job=3810
Title: Director of Energy Services / DES 0521
Company: Vanasse, Hangen, Brustlin, Inc
Location: Watertown, Massachusetts
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:20:48 -0700
From: "Bob Parcelles,Jr." <rjparcelles@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
--- Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG> wrote:
I thought that some of you might like to know that
the Washington Post ran =
a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS
mapmaker we heard so much =
earlier this year on the listserver.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001May20.html
Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the
story that those that
have been written in the past couple of months.
-Alison
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---------------Allison
and all,
This 'rebutttal" is old news by a very inexperienced
reporter. All of his myths have been debunked. Any
one involved in science can surely see the trend in
this administation to short -fund and otherwise make
it difficult for scientists who work in the
environmental fields. The Cheney White House (you
better believe it ) talks about getting the facts and
"making decisions based on science". But the
scientists used are usually on the big business
payroll. Government scientists and consultants (I am
one) are givern narrow parameters. We need basic as
well as apllied science and applied science must seek
the truth no matter what its bias.
Bob Parcelles, Jr.
RJP Associates
Pinellas Park, FL
TRY THESE LINKS FOR THE REST OF THE STORY...
http://www.peer.org
or this one for large graphics and maps:
http://www.peer.org/anwr
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Pinellas Park, FL
RJP Associates <rjpassociates@yahoo.com>
rjparcelles@yahoo.com
http://rainforest.care2.com/welcome?w=976131876
"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:09:32 -0400
From: Chris Rosamond <kiwdafish@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
So the spin from both sides begins...
As one who lost his job while blowing the whistle on a major water quality
fraud which was perpetrated by a "respectable" consulting firm, I am all too
familiar with the slander tactics which both news media and the "respectable
bosses" dealing with "unruly employees" are willing to toss about.
Nonetheless, I have no Idea what really happened to Ian.
None of us on the outside of this story will know exactly what happened to
Ian Thomas, nor who made the termination decisions, nor why. Ian made a
decision which cost him his livelihood. His supervisors likewise made
decisions which will affect international opinion, and ANWR. Is there a bad
guy? Or just a mishmash of different people doing what they consider to be
the right thing?
And, finally, what does Ian's shaving ability have to do with impartial
press coverage?
Chris Rosamond,
Aquatic Biologist and sometime whistleblower/untalented shaver.
>From: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
>Reply-To: Alison Gillespie <Alison@ESA.ORG>
>To: ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
>Subject: Martryed Mapmaker Myth: Washington Post Story
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:34:08 -0400
>
>I thought that some of you might like to know that the Washington Post r
n
>=
>a front page story today on Ian Thomas, the USGS mapmaker we heard so mu
h
>=
>earlier this year on the listserver.
>
>Due to copyright laws, I cannot post the whole story here, but to read t
e
>=
>story online, go to:
>
>
><<< http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53125-2001Ma
20.html =
> >>>
>
>Interesting reading... it fleshes out more of the story that those that
>have been written in the past couple of months.
>
>-Alison
>
>
>
>___________________
>
>Alison Gillespie
>Public Affairs Officer
>Ecological Society of America
>1707 H Street NW
>Suite 400
>Washington, DC 20006
>202-833-8773 ext 211
>alison@esa.org
>fax: 202-833-8775=20
>http://esa.sdsc.edu
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