ECOLOG-L Digest - 21 Feb 2001 to 22 Feb 2001
Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 21 Feb 2001 to 22 Feb 2001 To: Recipients of ECOLOG-L digests <ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU> Status: R There are 36 messages totalling 2239 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. habitat selection (3) 2. Botanical Term 3. gw: Fingerprints of melting ice caps point directly to global climate change and se 4. All specialized insect predators not suitable for biological control 5. Field Guide (2) 6. ECOLOG-L: Clarity of scientific terminology (Re: Habitat (2) 7. Botanical term 8. semantics shemantics 9. Graduate Research Assistantship in Aquatic Ecology 10. The role of science in restoring California's water resources 11. EPA Forum on Managing Contaminated Sediments at Hazardous Waste Sites 12. Science Spending to be Slashed in first Bush Budget (3) 13. Humpty Dumpty - Why Preservation versus Restoration? (2) 14. EU forestry companies 15. Habitats, species, and such 16. Global appetite for farmed fish devouring world's wild fish supplies 17. graduate student and post-doc positions at Michigan Tech 18. National Park Service web site for research and collecting permits 19. LA Times Request: Input on Environment & Cinema 20. Thanks... 21. field guide 22. Post Doctoral Fellow Position 23. scented foliage adaptation? 24. Geology list server? 25. scented foliage adaptation - can of worms (2) 26. Habitat selection/preference 27. habitat selection--more terms for? 28. plant ecology job ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:06:34 -0600 From: "Brett C. Woods" <bcwoods@FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU> Subject: Re: habitat selection I personally like the following definition: "selection is the process in which an animal chooses a resource, and preference is the likelihood that a resource will be selected if offered on an equal basis with others (Johnson 1980)." This quote is taken from "Resource selection by animals: Statistical design and analysis for field studies". In my opinion, an excellent book on the subject. This quote is based on a paper by Johnson, D.H. 1980. The comparison of usage and availability measurements for evaluating resource preference. Ecology 61:65-71. On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Beth Michaels wrote: > Greetings list folk. > > I too find this discussion confusing. In my admitted > naivete, I take "prefer" to mean "choose an ideal ___ > from an infinite array of options", and "select" to > mean "choose one______ from a limited array of > possibly less desirable options." Will anyone be so > kind as to enlighten me? > Beth > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:31:40 -0500 From: Thom Cate <tcate@ZOO.UVM.EDU> Subject: Re: Botanical Term Howard S Neufeld wrote: > What should we call the runners? Normally, runners refer to aboveg ound > connections. Thanks for your help. The word is "rhizome"--an underground runner. Note that "runner" is a colloquialism; the proper term for aboveground horizontal connections between nodes is a "stolon." Cheers, TC -- _______________________________________________________________________ | Thom Cate | ÎBiology is the study of plants and Graduate Research Fellow | their parasites¼ Proctor Maple Research Center | --unknown | University of Vermont | Î...that goat doesn t love YOU!¼ 120-B Marsh Life Science | --Weird Al Yankovic Burlington, VT 05405 | | ÎFencers only recognise fencers, | potential fencers and hopeless | individuals.¼ | - Aldo Nadi _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:20:15 -0500 From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: gw: Fingerprints of melting ice caps point directly to global clim te change and se "Fingerprints" of melting ice caps point directly to global climate change and sea level rise ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- The figure is a computer simulation of what happens to sea levels in the event of ice sheet melts near the Northern or Southern poles. The blue colors show a drop in sea level while the red and orange colors show a rise. The top image shows the impact on sea level when polar ice sheets in the Antarctic are melted. As can be seen, the blue color indicates a decrease in sea level near the Antarctic while it also shows a corresponding rise in sea level in the Northern Hemisphere. The middle image shows the effect on sea level when the polar ice sheets of Greenland are melted. As can be seen, the sea level decreases around Greenland but rises in the Southern Hemisphere. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Credit images to Jerry Mitrovica of the University of Toronto. Cutline to go with graphic: Full size image available through contact Global climate change is having a direct impact on the Earth's sea level and a group of scientists led by two University of Toronto geophysicists is providing the sea level "fingerprints" of polar ice sheet melting to prove it. Rates of sea level change over the last century vary widely from one geographic location to another even after these rates have been corrected for known effects. The question has always been, why? What is causing these significant variations? Jerry Mitrovica, University of Toronto geophysics professor, is lead author of a paper to appear in the Feb. 22 issue of Nature that claims to have discovered the answer. And it is an answer that has an important impact on the debate over global climate change. http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/uot-fom022001.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:07:24 -0500 From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: All specialized insect predators not suitable for biological contro 21 FEBRUARY 2001 AT 14:00 ET US Contact: A'ndrea Elyse Messer aem1@psu.edu 814-865-9481 Penn State All specialized insect predators not suitable for biological control University Park, PA -- An enemy is an enemy is an enemy, but some natural enemies are better than others at controlling prey populations and some enemies are ineffective, even though they are specialized, according to a Penn State entomologist. "Indian meal moths are a serious stored-food pest, and pathogens such as the virus Plodia interpunetella granulovirus and parasitoids, such as the wasp Venturia canescans, are prime candidates for its biological control," says Dr. Ottar N. Bjornstad, assistant professor of entomology and biology. "However, while they are both specialist enemies, the parasitoid wasp serves to depress host densities greatly, but the virus is completely ineffective." Bjornstad, working with Steven M. Sait, David J. Thompson, and Michael Begon, University of Liverpool and, Nils Chr. Stenseth, University of Oslo, studied populations of Indian meal moths, alone and infected by both the virus and the wasp over a two-year period. Reporting in the Feb. 22 issue of the journal Nature, the researchers note that the difference in biological control can be attributed to the strength of coupling between the meal moth host and the parasitoid. "Theory predicts that strong coupling between a prey and a specialist predator/parasite should lead to an increase in the dimensionality of the prey's dynamics, but weak coupling should not," says Bjornstad. "When coupled host-enemy dynamics occurs, the abundance of the host species, is affected by the abundance of the enemy which, in turn, feeds back on the abundance of the host. This is the mechanism responsible for the successful control of the moth by the wasp." The researchers studied three groups of insects. The control group of uninfected Indian meal moths, a group infected by the virus and a group infected by the predator wasp. The life cycles and infectious mechanisms of the parasitoids play an important role in the success of the parasitoids in controlling the meal moth population. The virus infects the moth larvae either when they eat infected food or the carcasses of infected moth larvae. However, resistance to disease increases with age so that the older larvae are immune to the virus. Also, viral infection while sometimes fatal can be sublethal allowing infected individuals to reach the reproductive stage. In the wasp/meal moth system, the researchers found that the number of adult wasps emerging depended on the numbers of susceptible larvae and the number of adult wasps that were present three weeks before when the eggs were laid. The system was strongly coupled with a lag of three weeks. For the meal moth/virus system, the number of infected larvae was also dependent on the number of infected and susceptible larvae present three weeks before, but the number of adult hosts did not decrease with the abundance of previously infected meal moth larvae. The meal moth/virus system is not fully coupled. Increased meal moth abundance does lead to increased virus infection, but this increase does not negatively impact the host population. "The lack of host-virus coupling is surprising since the virus is a highly specialized enemy that induces significant mortality in the early larval instars of the host," says Bjornstad. The researchers suggest that the explanation for this lack of coupling lies in the strong competition between large larvae. While the wasps attack older larvae, the virus infects younger larvae and the virus-induced mortality is partially compensated for by meal moths that survive to adulthood. While the virus does affect the meal moth, it does not form a strong enemy host coupling. "We found that the specialist enemies can, as theory predicts, increase the dimension of host dynamics through complete coupling, but also that the increase in dimensional complexity can be counterbalanced if coupling is weak," says Bjornstad. "In theory, there is a direct connection in ecological systems between the number of identifiable interacting groups and what is referred to as the dimensions of the dynamics. We are now able to calculate this quantity from time series data. To our surprise, we found that in natural systems, there may be such a connection, but it is not inevitable." The researchers believe that this might explain why certain keystone species embedded in rich ecological communities apparently exhibit low numbers of interactions with other species. "This research may potentially illuminate the enigmatic nature of biological control," says Bjornstad. It may also help determine which specialized enemy species can serve as efficient biological controls and which, while specialized enemies, will not control populations." ### EDITORS: Dr. Bjornstad is at 814-863-2983 or by e-mail at onb1@psu.edu http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/psu-adi022001.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:22:02 -0800 From: Darren Loomis <dloomis@CNU.EDU> Subject: Field Guide I intend to travel to eastern Siberia this summer in the region of the city of Magadan. I am looking for a field guide to the flora of the region. My preference is for a floristic key written in english. At the least a picture guide (wildflower guide) in Russian with color pictures. Does anyone have a recommendation. Darren Loomis Christopher Newport University ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:48:36 +0200 From: Yaron Ziv <yziv@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL> Subject: Re: ECOLOG-L: Clarity of scientific terminology (Re: Habitat selection, schmelection) First, I think that the changed subject name: "Habitat selection, schmelection" is impolite (some might even say rude) in a way that makes me feel quite uncomfortable. Second, I think that, at least for a certain group of people who work on these issues on a daily basis, the difference between habitat selection and habitat preference is very clear. Furthermore, the distinction relies on solid population-dynamics based body of theory. Since we will never be able to get all the information (definitely not the heavy stuff) from listserv discussion (which has its great contribution for other things), I recommend those who are interested in getting into the details to go through the relevant literature. In a previous message, I have enclosed a list of publications. I think that reading just the following papers will give a good picture on this school: Fretwell, S. D. and H. L. J. Lucas (1969). "On territorial behavior and other factors influencing habitat distribution in birds." Acta Biotheoretica 19: 16-36. Rosenzweig, M. L. (1991). "Habitat selection and population interactions: the search for mechanism." American Naturalist 137: S5-S28. Rosenzweig, M. L. and Z. Abramsky (1997). "Two gerbils of the Negev: a long-term investigation of optimal habitat selection and its consequences." Evolutionary Ecology 11: 733-756. All the best, -- Yaron Ziv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:23:51 -0500 From: Allison Schwarz <aschwarz@EMAIL.UNC.EDU> Subject: Re: Botanical term Howard, In my experience, the term rhizome refers to a horizontal underground stem (and stolon or runner refers to a stem that grows along the surface of the ground). I'm in interested in learning more about your research on Galax urceolata -- as you may know, the USFS, NPS, and NCDA are actively tagging Galax in restricted areas of the Nantahala NF and along the Blue Ridge Parkway to deter poaching. Allison Schwarz Botanist Nantahala National Forest aschwarz@fs.fed.us On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Howard S Neufeld wrote: > Dear All, > We are working with an evergreen, understory herb called Galax urce lata > (formerly G. aphylla). It is clonal. Each plant is composed of severa > leaves attached to a short underground rhizome. Ramets are connected b > long underground runners that grow out of the rhizome. > > What should we call the runners? Normally, runners refer to aboveg ound > connections. Thanks for your help. > > Howie Neufeld > > > ------------------------------------------ > Howard S. Neufeld, Professor > 572 Rivers St. > P.O. Box 32027 > Dept. of Biology > Appalachian State University > Boone, NC 28608-2027 > ------------------------------------------ > Tel. 828-262-2683 > FAX 828-262-2127 > ------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:01 -0800 From: Timothy Brook Smith <timsmith@UCDAVIS.EDU> Subject: semantics shemantics > First, I hope that this "thread" will continue until the questions > submitted are clearly resolved and our (or at least my) ignorance is > clearly delineated. It seems to me that this "thread" is a highly > important one, and that to abandon it unresolved and undelineated woul be, > shall we say, "un-courageous? It seems to me far too ambitious an undertaking to delineate even one human s ignorance. It also seems a fairly conventional thing to say "select a habitat" or "sel ct a diet item" and a cursory tour through a half dozen texts on my desk seems to confirm that. However, I too am all for the integration of ecology and evolutionary theory. I can see how the word "choice" may be preferable to "selection" to avoid confusion from that perspective. We should remember, however, that both the Women's Reproductive Rights movement, and some educational policy wonks have also laid claim to the word "choice", so agai , you will still have to fall back upon the vagaries of context if you encoun er this word. To avoid future problems in this regard, I propose use of the word "Glafloi el hecking" to denote the use of a sub-optimal diet item or habitat. ;) If there are issues remaining here other than semantics, I believe a list member from Isreal provided an excellent bibliography covering some of foundational literature regarding these issues. If you have deleted that, m st behavioral ecology texts will have some discussions of "ideal free distribution" and "despotic distribution" and the rest. Best of luck, Tim It seems to me that > "selection" is a genetic/evolution term, quite valid, useful, and high y > relevant to this discussion in this context. I suppose it's ok for bo h > terms to be used and distinguished by context, but where confusion can > occur, clarity would appear to be better option. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:53:30 -0800 From: Timothy Brook Smith <timsmith@UCDAVIS.EDU> Subject: Re: habitat selection Hi Beth. Yes, this thread has spiraled off in some confusing directions. I am probab y somewhat responsible for starting this, so I will try my best to end it here The original comment about "selection" vs "preference" was directed toward a grad student with some statistical questions. He mentioned in passing that is field sampling was intended to measure stonefly "preferences" for certain habitats. He was probably already aware of this, but I had to open my big m uth and remind him that because of interactions between organisms in the habitat some of the stoneflies may not be utilizing a "preferred" habitat (your definition for that word is perfectly suitable for what is intended here). Instead, what he was probably measuring was "selection" (or "choice") of habitats from the range of available options. I gave the example of crayfish. Orconectes immunis use rocky cobble substra es if given the choice to do so. However, stronger, dominant crayfish species displace O. immunis from cobble, so O. immunis is instead often found in soft-bottomed areas of streams and lakes. The preferred habitat is cobble, their selected habitat is silt. The habitats chosen (or "selected") by O. immunis depend on what other species are around...this type of interaction h s been shown for other taxa as well...perhaps even stonefiles, I don't know. he bottom line is if you care about where organisms are found and why they are found there, (as many ecologists are) you should be aware of this (fairly mundane) distinction. The ensuing discussion has included a detailed description of the literature in this area, objections over the semantics of "selection", some gratuitous dig at the grad. student's question, and a suggestion that we are hopeless fools if we think we will ever know enough about behavior or anything else in communitie to ever do anything of value in them. ..isn't this horse dead yet? Best of luck, Tim > Greetings list folk. > > I too find this discussion confusing. In my admitted > naivete, I take "prefer" to mean "choose an ideal ___ > from an infinite array of options", and "select" to > mean "choose one______ from a limited array of > possibly less desirable options." Will anyone be so > kind as to enlighten me? > Beth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:51:10 -0600 From: Caryn Vaughn <cvaughn@OU.EDU> Subject: Graduate Research Assistantship in Aquatic Ecology This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_CmHBRD9lnfrBKXpsyAOBwg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Graduate Research Assistantship Aquatic invertebrates; University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK Funding is available for a graduate research assistantship to work on an intensive aquatic invertebrate survey of 50 springs throughout Oklahoma. I am seeking an enthusiastic field- oriented MS or PhD student with field experience and identification skills (or an interest in learning these skills). 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Vaughn end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_CmHBRD9lnfrBKXpsyAOBwg)-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:43:06 -0500 From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: The role of science in restoring California's water resources 20 FEBRUARY 2001 AT 11:00 ET US Contact: Mark Shwartz mshwartz@stanford.edu 650-723-9296 Comment: David L. Freyberg, Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering freyberg@cive.stanford.edu 650-723-3234 Stanford University The role of science in restoring California's water resources Few issues in California are as contentious as water That`s particularly true in Northern California, where snowmelt from the Sierra Nevada mountains is siphoned off to meet drinking and irrigation needs for the rest of the state. But as California`s population continues to grow, so does concern over the future of its liquid assets. Today many residents are calling for a balanced approach to water management - one that meets the demands of thirsty farms and cities while protecting Northern California`s fragile rivers and lakes. The critical role played by environmental scientists in solving the state`s complex water issues will be the subject of a symposium at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) in San Francisco on Tuesday, Feb. 20, at 8 a.m. PT. Hydrologist David L. Freyberg, an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford, is one of a half-dozen experts from around the state invited to address the three-hour conference. ``The social, political and economic life of California is completely entwined with its water resources,`` Freyberg says, ``and the next few years are likely to be particularly interesting.`` Energy crisis Freyberg points out that water is intimately linked to California`s most urgent crisis - the shortage of electricity resulting from deregulation of the state`s utilities. The power crisis, which caused rolling blackouts and skyrocketing utility bills in January, has been exacerbated by a lack of rainfall. That`s because most electricity in the Golden State is produced by hydroelectric dams, and when water reservoirs are low, electrical production drops. Fear of additional shortages has led some political leaders to call for increased hydropower production, but Freyberg cautions that state policy makers must weigh the environmental impact of all new water projects. ``Understanding the biological effect of releasing dammed water requires that we understand the intricate food webs that exist downstream,`` Freyberg says. ``I don`t see any new dams being built in California,`` he says, noting that ``dams are being removed as we speak to restore damaged ecosystems.`` California Aqueduct ``There`s a lot of water in California,`` observes Freyberg, ``but not where people live.`` In fact, most Californians reside in the southern part of the state, in arid desert communities such as Los Angeles, Anaheim and San Diego. And California`s multibillion-dollar agriculture industry - which produces 45 percent of America`s fruit and vegetables - is concentrated in the vast Central Valley, where rainfall is scarce during the summer and fall growing seasons. Californians tried to correct the north/south water imbalance in the 1960s by constructing a controversial 700-mile artificial river known as the California Aqueduct - the largest water conveyance project in the world. This system of concrete canals diverts millions of acre-feet of water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta in the north to Southern California and the Central Valley. ``When we alter water distribution on that scale,`` says Freyberg, ``it significantly changes the environment, particularly riparian ecosystems that are extremely important to wildlife and fisheries.`` Restoration of the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta is a major challenge for state policymakers, Freyberg notes. The Delta - a huge wetland ecosystem that drains into San Francisco Bay - provides drinking water to 20 million people, irrigates millions of acres of farmland and serves as a recreational playground for thousands of boaters and anglers. Decades ago, the Delta teemed with fish and wildlife, but development, pollution and aqueduct diversion have taken their toll. In March 2000, however, California voters approved a $1.97 billion water quality initiative, which earmarked more than $250 million to improve management of the Delta. Part of the money will be used to control flooding and restore wetland habitat. Freyberg points out that state and federal officials are working with wildlife and fisheries biologists, hydrologists, soil chemists and other environmental scientists to determine the best way to revive the fragile ecosystem. But that`s not always the case. ``Unfortunately, when it comes to California water policy, a lot of decisions get made that are not based on science,`` Freyberg says. ``So many constituencies are involved that tradeoffs are inevitable.`` Other speakers at the AAAS symposium will discuss how scientists are working to resolve the problems of water contamination, sedimentation and flooding in Silicon Valley, Lake Tahoe and other parts of Northern California. ### Editors: Professor David L. Freyberg will participate in the symposium ``The role of science in the water issues of Northern California`` at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science on Tuesday, Feb. 20, from 8 to 11 a.m. PT at the Hilton San Francisco & Towers, 333 O`Farrell St., San Francisco, CA 94102. For more information, see the AAAS website at http://www.aaas.org/meetings. Relevant Web URLs: http://calfed.ca.gov http://www.cfwc.com/ http://wwwdwr.water.ca.gov/ By Mark Shwartz http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/su-tro020901.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:57:35 -0500 From: "David W. Inouye" <di5@umail.umd.edu> Subject: EPA Forum on Managing Contaminated Sediments at Hazardous Waste Sit s EPA Forum on Managing Contaminated Sediments at Hazardous Waste Sites May 30 - June 1, 2001, Hilton Old Town Alexandria, Virginia Online Registration at: http://www.epa.gov/superfund/new/events.htm Forum Announcement and Call for Papers For more information: Contact Joan Fisk at 703.603.8791 This forum will facilitate an open exchange of information and viewpoints concerning cleanup of contaminated sediments. Panelists and participants will discuss the key science and policy issues for making the most appropriate site-specific risk management decisions that are consistent with current federal laws and regulations. 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Zimmerman Name: Title: Name of Organization: Street Address: City: State: Zip Code: Country: Telephone: Fax: E-mail Address: Affiliation (Select One) U.S. EPA Other Federal Agency State or Local Agency Academia Industry Consulting Tribe Other ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:22:50 -0700 From: Brandon Bestelmeyer <bbestelm@NMSU.EDU> Subject: Re: habitat selection Beth, You hit it on the head (although "prefer" and "select" have also been used interchangeably). The act of habitat selection by an individual animal can be based on broad preferences, based on cues such as habitat structure. The cues may be learned or innate, but they should indicate the potential for high fitness returns (i.e. high habitat "quality" or "suitability"). But the realization of this potential is mediated by a multitude of other factors that vary alot such as the density of conspecifics, competitors, predators, or mutualists. Sometimes the preferred habitat just isn't located. In birds, site tenacity (the behavioural tendency to breed where you successfully bred previously) may compel individuals to use less preferred habitats even when better ones are available. Thus, sometimes a habitat type that is generally preferred is not the one selected. This has made determining what exactly "preferred" habitat is a tricky business. Brandon -----Original Message----- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU]On Behalf Of Beth Michaels Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 13:46 To: ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: habitat selection Greetings list folk. I too find this discussion confusing. In my admitted naivete, I take "prefer" to mean "choose an ideal ___ from an infinite array of options", and "select" to mean "choose one______ from a limited array of possibly less desirable options." Will anyone be so kind as to enlighten me? Beth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:45:57 -0500 From: Kevin Hutton <khutton@CNIE.ORG> Subject: Science Spending to be Slashed in first Bush Budget Science Spending to be Slashed in first Bush Budget FLAT BUDGET FOR NSF; 22% CUT FOR USGS Letters needed right away [ HTML version is at http://www.cnie.org/updates/88.htm ] President George W. Bush will propose that "funds for the National Science Foundation rise just 1% in fiscal 2002," when he submits his initial budget, according to a February 16 report in the Wall Street Journal http://www.cnie.org/updates/88b.htm . Additionally, the paper reports that, "the U.S. Geological Survey, which performs water and biological studies for federal policy makers, is fighting to stave off a threatened 22% cut from its $885 million appropriation for this fiscal year." While budget numbers for other federal science programs have not been leaked yet, it is expected that the Environmental Protection Agency, among others, will face cuts. President Bush will present his budget priorities to a joint session of Congress on Feburary 27 and on February 28, release a "blueprint" document laying out his budgetary themes and proposed spending levels for federal agencies and departments. Plans are to release the final, detailed proposed Federal budget on April 3, an analyst from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) reported to NCSE. These budget numbers will change ONLY if there is a strong and sustained response from the scientific community and members of the public. We urge you and your colleagues to write to: *** Mitch Daniels, Director, Office of Management and Budget , New Executive Office Building, 725 17th St. NW, Washington, DC 20500 *** President George W. Bush, The White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, DC 20503 *** Your Senators. U.S. Senate, Washington, DC 20510 http://congress.nw.dc.us/rollcall/ *** Your Congressional Representative, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515 (ask that they send letters to OMB in support of science funding) http://congress.nw.dc.us/rollcall/ *** Your local newspaper (see attached editorial by David Warsh of the Boston Globe) http://boston.com/dailyglobe2/051/business/Seed_corn_anyone_+.shtml Please send a copy of your letter to NCSE at cnie@cnie.orgô or fax 202-628-4311. A sample letter can be found at www.cnie.org/updates/bushsample.htm Heads of institutions are asked to sign a group letter that NCSE will send to President Bush and Director Daniels. To be included in the letter, fax your signature, name and title to NCSE at 202-628-4311 no later than March 7. 1725 K Street, N.W. Suite 212 Washington, DC 20006-1401 202/530-5810 cnie@cnie.org Fax 202/628-4311 www.cnie.org THE BOSTON GLOBE EDITORIAL FOLLOWS The rationale underlying the Bush economic policy came into sharper focus last week when the news surfaced that the administration was planning to cut back sharply on the science budget in order to make room for its tax cuts. David Rogers reported in the Wall Street Journal Friday that under current plans, funding for the National Science Foundation will climb only 1 percent in the fiscal year that begins in October. The budget of the National Institutes of Health, which sponsors most of the nation's basic medical and biotech research, is scheduled to continue to soar, by as much as $3.4 billion, under a prior legislative agreement that calls for doubling its budget over five years. But the US Geological Survey, which among its other duties monitors water and ecological conditions, is slated for a 22 percent cut - nearly a quarter of its $885 million budget. The news leaked after a Wednesday meeting of White House budget director Mitch Daniels and moderate Republican leadership of the House of Representatives. GOP legislators were quick to make their disapproval known. ''Absurd,'' Representative James Walsh of New York told Rogers. Walsh is the Appropriations Committee member who oversees the NSF budget. Meanwhile, the nation's universities, where most of the NSF's research is performed, have begun to mobilize. The Bush administration's desire to cut back sharply from the relatively generous science funding of recent years stems from its wish to hold budget increases to about the rate of inflation. The idea is to tightly cap the third of the budget subject to annual appropriations in order to facilitate big tax cuts. Last week the president told the GOP budget-writing team he wants to hold the appropriations portion of his budget to an increase of about 4 percent when he presents it to Congress next week in a nationally televised address. But he also wants to increase defense appropriations by around 10 percent, a rate of growth about which there exists a broad bipartisan consensus. To do that means very slow growth or outright cuts in the other half of the discretionary budget, which includes almost everything the government does except Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Nobody wants to cut education or law enforcement or transportation infrastructure or low-income housing or the Veterans Administration. So sticking it to the R&D budget is one of the alternatives. Why cap the budget so tightly? To make room for that 10-year, $1.6 trillion tax cut, of course. But what's so important about that number that it justifies clamping down on the scientific spending that constitutes our seed corn? The answer: Nothing at all. The Bush tax plan has its origins in the sense that it wasn't fair to quickly override the bipartisan tax reform act of 1986 that closed myriad loopholes in order to establish just two brackets for the income tax - with a top rate of 28 percent. First on the eve of the Gulf War, George H.W. Bush agreed to raise the top rate to 31 percent, in exchange for government spending cuts. Then in 1993, Bill Clinton pushed the top rate to 39.6 percent, in the name of deficit reduction. With the elimination of a $125,000 ceiling on a 2.9 percent Medicare payroll tax, that put the top rate at 42 percent - too high for the spirit of 1986 and the broad Reagan consensus it represented. Some part of Bush's tax cuts are merited on grounds of fairness alone. But surely there is no need to make these cuts all at once. The well-to-do prospered greatly during the '90s boom. A 42 percent marginal rate didn't seem to slow growth much at all. So why not cut the top tax bracket to, say, 35 percent for now? And keep government spending on science intact? David Warsh can be reached by e-mail at warsh@globe.com. This story ran on page C01 of the Boston Globe on 2/20/2001. © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company. -- Kevin Hutton, Webmaster National Council for Science and the Environment 1725 K St. NW Suite 212 Washington, DC 20006 http://www.cnie.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:08:29 -0800 From: Dave Ward <daveward@NWLINK.COM> Subject: Humpty Dumpty - Why Preservation versus Restoration? I'm a little concerned that this discussion has been limited to an evaluation of restoration versus preservation. Why not both? The philosophy behind any preservation program is to ensure that we don't move backward, losing functional or near functional habitat processes in one place while we are trying to restore them from scratch in another. Restoring ecosystem processes is far more expensive and difficult than preserving those that are already functional. (Try a web search using the keywords "invasive species" for a small sample of some of the challenges.) The best we can do to restore habitat is to set a few habitat-forming processes in motion and wait for those processes (if we did it right) to do the real work. As a restoration professional, I would feel like I was spinning my wheels if I knew that nobody was out there trying to preserve those relatively undisturbed habitats. As an individual, I work by day in a restoration capacity and by night on the board of a regional land conservancy. Restoration without preservation might assure job security for some of us, but we'll be working despite ourselves. Dave Ward Habitat Restoration Projects Manager Stilly-Snohomish Fisheries Enhancement Task Force -----Original Message----- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU]On Behalf Of Heidi Hillhouse Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:40 PM To: ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: Humpty Dumpty I wish I had information on the success rates of restoration vs. preservation of ecosystems, but I don't. Maybe someone else on the list...? I can and have documented the effects of fire on some ecosystems. I wasn't stating that frequent fires can be harmeful, although that is certainly true. More, I was stating that stopping wildfires in habitat preserves can negatively impact ecosystems. Prairie systems in particular are well documented to benefit from an occasional burning, although details on what the proper interval for maximum diversity is are still under discussion. Another example- in Yellowstone forest, there are tree species specialized in reproduction after a fire- the seeds stay confined in cones or other structures and unable to germinate until the high temperatures associated with fire cause them to be released (sorry, don't have the exact tree species handy). Prairie systems are the ones I'm personally most familiar with, so my examples tend to be in those terms. I know that even the oldest restoration project that I'm aware of (over 70 years old now) has a significantly diffrent microbial community, bird community, and plant diversity and distribution than a protected (read- preserved) area close to it. Even after all we have learned, we can't come close to recreating the interactions an undisturbed area. Granted, it's possible that we are still examining too short of a time scale, but this is the best information available to date. I guess in summary, I would say that I favor neither restoration or preservation. They both have severe limitations. Whenever possible, I think that salvaging any existing community interactions in degraded ecosystems is preferable to attempting to recreate it from the bottom up. From that point of veiw, preservation provides a better starting point, even in highly degraded areas. Of course, it would be nice if neither of these practices were necessary, but the reality demands a more pragmatic approach. Heidi --- Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> wrote: > Honorable Forum: > > Common sense is often right. It also is often > wrong. That's why the > faculty of critical thinking, especially about one's > own thinking, is so > critical. > > It's easy enough to favor preservation--when it's > possible. It's easy > enough to favor restoration--when it works. > > Especially in the intermountain west, where years of > "range management" and > "forestry" have decimated ecosystems, I would like > to see some real data > demonstrating that restoration has been more > effective than > preservation. For example, how many acres have been > chained and seeded > with alien "range" grasses and to what tangible > benefit? How many of these > acres have been restored, to what tangible benefit? > > Extended fire frequencies also no doubt do have some > "devastating effects," > but where have they been quantified? > > Best, > WT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:48:52 -0800 From: Derya Esen <guzelfethiyeli@YAHOO.COM> Subject: EU forestry companies Hi, I am looking for the (web) addresses of major forestry companies in Europe selling research equipment, a company like Forestry Suppliers or Ben Meadows in the US. Can anyone could help me with this ? Thanks in advance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:53:24 -0800 From: Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> Subject: Re: Habitats, species, and such --=====================_158352240==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah Stan, as usual you can be depended upon to cut through the pretense. To me, "preservation" is a "mere" (but damned important) act of will bedded in common sense (well, at least in my dreams). But as one who has filched a living by "doing the best I can" for the last 30+ years, I would have to defend my actions (in the face of my oft-repeated statement that nine-tenths of the hell being raised in the world is well-intentioned). Could I be in the oneth percentile? Only examination of specific can tell for "sure." If it's any consolation, the first "phase" of my evaluation discipline consists of the question: "What will happen if we just lay-off?" Then I try to lay down as few thin layers of action as possible. Since I retired this year, the earth can rest a little easier. Best, WT At 11:46 AM 02/21/2001 -0800, Stan Rowe wrote: >Say Wayne, isn't the problem that the complexity of ecosystems (not >communities plus environment) exceeds the complexity of the circuitry of >our brains? So in good scientific reductive fashion we jump on the thing >we think we can handle, the simple parts, the individual organisms >generalized as "species." We think that we can preserve or restore speci s >if we can just get the hang of it and therefore set our minds to that >task, focusing on particular plants and animals to which we attribute >"habitat preferences" and the ability to "select habitats." Of course >these are over-simplifications, as "habitat" is one of the wooly words. >Strict "preservation" alone maintains the structure and function of >semi-natural and natural ecosystems such as Old Growth Forests on >Fire-Proof Well-Watered Landforms With Cool Microclimates and Suitable >Soils. "Restoration" will always be a relative term, meaning to the >sensitive: "Gee we're sorry we were so stoopid, and now we'd like to mak >amends, but we don't really know how, so we're doing the best we can." T >which the Earth might well respond with two words: Lay Off ! > Stan --=====================_158352240==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> Yeah Stan, as usual you can be depended upon to cut through the pretense. To me, "preservation" is a "mere" (but damned important) act of will bedded in common sense (well, at least in my dreams). But as one who has filched a living by "doing the best I can" for the last 30+ years, I would have to defend my actions (in the face of my oft-repeated statement that nine-tenths of the hell being raised in the world is well-intentioned). Could I be in the oneth percentile? Only examination of specific can tell for "sure." If it's any consolation, the first "phase" of my evaluation discipline consists of the question: "What will happen if we just lay-off?" Then I try to lay down as few thin layers of action as possible. Since I retired this year, the earth can rest a little easier. <br> <br> Best,<br> WT<br> <br> <br> At 11:46 AM 02/21/2001 -0800, Stan Rowe wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>Say Wayne, isn't the problem that the complexity of ecosystems (<b>not</b> communities plus enviro ment) exceeds the complexity of the circuitry of our brains? So in good scientific reductive fashion we jump on the things we think we can handle, the simple parts, the individual organisms generalized as "species." We think that we can preserve or restore species if we can just get the hang of it and therefore set our minds to that task, focusing on particular plants and animals to which we attribute "habitat preferences" and the ability to "select habitats." Of course these are over-simplifications, as "habitat" is one of the wooly words. Strict "preservation" alone maintains the structure and function of semi-natural and natural ecosystems such as Old Growth Forests on Fire-Proof Well-Watered Landforms With Cool Microclimates and Suitable Soils. "Restoration" will always be a relative term, meaning to the sensitive: "Gee we're sorry we were so stoopid, and now we'd like to make amends, but we don't really know how, so we're doing the best we can." To which the Earth might well respond with two words: <b>Lay Off !<br> </b><x-tab> </ -tab>Stan</blo= ckquote><br> </html> --=====================_158352240==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:37:27 -0500 From: Karen Claxon <kclaxon@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: Global appetite for farmed fish devouring world's wild fish supplie 18 FEBRUARY 2001 AT 18:00 ET US Contact: Nancy Baron tojohnson@seaweb.org 202-437-5502 Valerie Holford 888-429-4988 pager SeaWeb Global appetite for farmed fish devouring world's wild fish supplies New global study shows the combined impacts of capture fisheries and aquaculture are depleting marine food webs from the top down and the bottom up Just as the California energy crisis shows what happens when you don't plan ahead for increasing demands on limited resources, we may be headed for a similar crisis in the seas. Today, at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) Meeting in San Francisco, an international group of scientists will present new findings on unintended impacts of fish farming that put both oceans and the aquaculture industry at risk. Dr. Daniel Pauly of the University of British Columbia Fisheries Centre will release a new global study, "Farming Up Marine Food Webs" showing that major sectors of the booming aquaculture industry are literally feeding on world fisheries. Aquaculture, the fastest growing sector of the world food economy, is increasing by 11% a year. Many people expect this growth to relieve pressure on ocean fish stocks, most of which are now fished beyond capacity, and to provide a reliable source of food to a world population that adds 78 million people each year. Paradoxically, Pauly's new study shows that the increasing trend toward farming carnivorous fish means that many types of aquaculture are pushing us towards a worldwide collapse of wild fisheries. Production of a single pound of fish-eating species such as shrimp, salmon, tuna or cod demands 2 to 5 lbs. of wild caught fish that is processed into meal and oil for feeds. Pauly previously discovered a global pattern of fishing down the food chain, putting more pressure on lower level species as we exhaust the bigger carnivorous fish. (Pauly et al. Feb.6,1998, Science) Conversely, his new analysis demonstrates that the mean trophic level (relative position of organisms within food chains) of farmed fish has been rapidly increasing in almost all regions of the world outside Asia. The new study discovered that traditional aquaculture -farming fish that eat plants and detritus-is being replaced by modern intensive farming of large, carnivorous fish because overfishing has decimated these fish in the wild. Even in Asia, the ancient home of aquaculture, vegetarian fish like tilapia and carp are now being fed fishmeal and fish oil for faster weight gain and marketability. "The new trend in aquaculture is to drain the seas to feed the farms. Meanwhile capture fisheries now focus on what we once considered bait. These two trends- farming up and fishing down the food web imply massive impacts on marine ecosystems that are clearly unsustainable," says Pauly. At the AAAS meetings in San Francisco, a panel of seven international scientists are presenting data showing that aquaculture is necessary to the world's future food security, but warn that the growing demands of the world's food production systems upon a finite quantity of resources means that all aquatic and terrestrial farming systems must become more efficient. Cost-benefit analyses into the viability of certain kinds of aquaculture must incorporate externalities: fisheries decline, aquatic pollution, habitat destruction and impacts on wild stocks. Examples of "good aquaculture" practices include farming vegetarian species and employing polyculture that recycles nutrients and minimizes effluents. Dr. Jason Clay will also release the findings of a three year study by WWF, the World Bank, FAO and the Network of Aquaculture Centres in Asia Pacific on the best and worst practices of shrimp farming. Shrimp farming now produces half of all internationally traded shrimp. Raising 800,000 metric tonnes yearly world wide, for a total value of US $6 billion, the industry is said to generate benefits for cash strapped countries. Ironically, disease-induced "boom and bust" shrimp farming has resulted in increasing poverty and landlessness, declining food security, and break down of traditional livelihood systems. Impacts have included the destruction of mangroves and wetlands, the large-scale capture of wild larvae and brood-stock, pollution, use of chemicals and antibiotics, intensive fish meal demands and the privatization of public resources. "Aquaculture is at a critical crossroads," declares Dr. Albert Tacon, head of the Oceanic Institute's Aquatic Feeds and Nutrition Program in Hawaii. "Fish farming could decrease pressure on fisheries and feed the worlds growing population. That's why it is so important to proceed on a sustainable path." Consumer markets ultimately dictate the type of fish farming that farmers will employ. Consumers should look for vegetarian fish that feed low on the food web including catfish, tilapia, oysters and other shellfish. Aquaculture also needs new policies that will reward the aquaculture industry for engaging in best sustainable practices. " To date, fish farming has been separated from ocean fisheries in regulation, management and mindset," states Stanford economist Dr. Roz Naylor who chairs today's session at AAAS. "It is high time both public and private interests think of these sectors jointly. Without sound ecological practices, the expanding aquaculture industry poses a threat not only to ocean fisheries, but also to itself." ### http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/sw-gaf021601.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:07:05 -0800 From: Heidi Hillhouse <asalufa@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: Humpty Dumpty - Why Preservation versus Restoration? Sorry! I think clarification is in order! I don't think anybody was implying that we should only do preservation OR restoration- rather we were discussing the advantages and disadvantages of both. Also- in reality, these are not mutually exclusive. Restoring degraded but preserved areas is certainly feasible- and probably preferable- to starting from bare dirt. Restoring preserved areas may require a more indepth understanding of the system than starting from scratch, since there are already organism established in the area. You may or may not want to keep a given species in that type of area, depending on it's competativeness, invasiveness, or resistance to other species. Also- naturalized non-native species need to be considered too, along with the pragmatic issue of cost of removal! In some areas, pure preservation approaches which simply eliminate disturbances can be nearly as distructive to the underlying system as plowing up a grassland. Grasslands (in areas not strictly water limited) are largely maintained by herbivory and fire. Eliminating these disturbances leads to the eventual destruction of the grassland, as it will often be quickly overrun by trees, shrubs, and other woody species. Some areas in Europe that have been in constant cultivation (non-plowed crops) for hundreds of years have developed flora adapted to that disturbance regime. Does preservation mean leaving these areas alone completely, and preventing disturbance? To do so will lead to the degradation and eventual elimination of that habitat type. Restoration or maintainance of these areas are as critical as their initial preservation. Preservation and restoration are by no means easy! They can be very complex, and the success of a project can depend greatly on what the defined goal is. Heidi --- Dave Ward <daveward@NWLINK.COM> wrote: > I'm a little concerned that this discussion has been > limited to an > evaluation of restoration versus preservation. Why > not both? > > The philosophy behind any preservation program is to > ensure that we don't > move backward, losing functional or near functional > habitat processes in one > place while we are trying to restore them from > scratch in another. > > Restoring ecosystem processes is far more expensive > and difficult than > preserving those that are already functional. (Try a > web search using the > keywords "invasive species" for a small sample of > some of the challenges.) > The best we can do to restore habitat is to set a > few habitat-forming > processes in motion and wait for those processes (if > we did it right) to do > the real work. > > As a restoration professional, I would feel like I > was spinning my wheels if > I knew that nobody was out there trying to preserve > those relatively > undisturbed habitats. As an individual, I work by > day in a restoration > capacity and by night on the board of a regional > land conservancy. > > Restoration without preservation might assure job > security for some of us, > but we'll be working despite ourselves. > > Dave Ward > Habitat Restoration Projects Manager > Stilly-Snohomish Fisheries Enhancement Task Force > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:36:24 -0500 From: "Andrew J. Burton" <ajburton@MTU.EDU> Subject: graduate student and post-doc positions at Michigan Tech The following two positions are currently available at Michigan Technological University. Graduate Research Fellowship (PhD) available for quantitatively oriented student with interest in forest C and N cycling and soil foodwebs. Stipend $18,000/yr plus tuition and fees for three years. The student will study and model belowground C and N cycling in northern hardwood forests and the processing of C and N by the soil foodweb. The student will be expected to use analytical approaches to capture quantitative behavior of the belowground ecological system. The fellowship is one of seven being funded nationwide as part of an NSF sponsored ecological circuitry collaboratory involving multiple universities. The overall aim of the collaboratory is to increase the number of quantitatively-oriented professionals in the ecological sciences. The students and investigators that comprise the collaboratory will meet annually for short courses and the exchange of ideas and information. Interested students should send their CV, a statement of research interests, copies of transcripts and GRE scores (unofficial), and the names, phone numbers and email addresses of three references to Dr. Kurt Pregitzer, School of Forestry and Wood Products, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931. For additional information please visit the ecological circuitry web page at http://www.ecostudies.org/cc or email Dr. Kurt Pregitzer at kspregit@mtu.edu Post-Doctoral Position. Forest Ecology. One year appointment, renewable up to three years. Research on belowground C and N cycling in northern hardwood forests receiving chronic N additions. Research areas include, root and mycorrhizal longevity and turnover, root and leaf litter tissue chemistry and decomposition, production and chemical characterization of DOC, and root and soil respiration. Research goals are to delineate the mechanisms underlying observed changes in ecosystem C and N cycling following seven years of simulated N deposition. Send statement of research interests, CV, copies of transcripts, and the names, phone numbers and email addresses of three references to Dr. Kurt Pregitzer, School of Forestry and Wood Products, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931. For additional information please email Dr. Kurt Pregitzer at kspregit@mtu.edu. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:30:25 -0600 From: "D. Liane Cochran-Stafira" <cochran@SXU.EDU> Subject: Re: Field Guide Darren, Contact the following publisher. They usually have lots of Russian publications, some of which I believe are in English. KOELTZ SCIENTIFIC BOOKS Booksellers & Publishers in the Fields of Botany & Zoology P.O.Box 1360 D 61453 Koenigstein / Germany European VAT ID: DE111217925 Phone: International: +49 / 6174 93720 National: 06174 93720 Fax: International: +49 / 6174 937240 National:06174 937240 E-Mail: koeltz@t-online.de (Or: koeltz@attglobal.net) Internet: http://www.koeltz.com At 05:22 PM 2/21/01 -0800, you wrote: >I intend to travel to eastern Siberia this summer in the region of the >city of Magadan. I am looking for a field guide to the flora of the >region. My preference is for a floristic key written in english. At >the least a picture guide (wildflower guide) in Russian with color >pictures. Does anyone have a recommendation. > >Darren Loomis >Christopher Newport University > > *************************** Liane Cochran-Stafira, Ph.D. Department of Biology Saint Xavier University 3700 West 103rd Street Chicago, Illinois 60655 phone: 773-298-3514 fax: 773-779-9061 email: cochran@sxu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:44:14 -0000 From: Chris Borg <ckborg@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Science Spending to be Slashed in first Bush Budget Hi folks, It seems like the hypocriscy of this administration is showing itself quickly... they tell the public that "more scientific research is needed" before we commit ourselves to policies such as those pertaining to global climate change, yet they cut research budgets. We need a concerted effort to bring this issue to the front of the public sector. -Chris FIU/SERC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:29:34 -0800 From: Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> Subject: Re: ECOLOG-L: Clarity of scientific terminology (Re: Habitat Yaron Ziv and Honorable Forum: I'm sorry that you, Yaron, were offended. Perhaps it's cultural. I just love Yiddish (humorous, frequently sarcastic expressions), but perhaps my inadequate knowledge of it has caused me to misapply it. It was intended to lighten up the discussion, to be humorous. Cross-cultural humor poses problems, but it also exposes us to the spirit of other cultures--for me, I prefer to learn the nuances of other cultures, so I freely expose those of mine, as I see them. I apologize for changing the subject heading and I thank you for this valid criticism. I think we all should be more careful to stick to the original "thread," although we should freely add subheadings when appropriate. Thank you, Yaron, for the references. This is a positive response, but incomplete. I'm interested in YOUR opinion. Speaking of cultural nuances and such, I find your (Yaron's) response to be condescending. I suspect that you are more offended by my challenge to conventional, established wisdom than by my "rudeness." Disagree, by all means, but please do participate in the discussion by offering us your own reasoned response to the challenge. I reiterate that I submit that this issue (note that I had given it a more respectable main subject heading, realizing myself that "habitat selection, schmelection" was inaccurate) is worthy of discussion to a reasoned resolution rather than an exchange of opinions. This will benefit those "unwashed" among us who just want to know what you experts are really talking about. If the difference between the terms is "very clear," would it require several references to clearly state those differences? Seems like an easy task for an expert. Respectfully submitted, WT At 09:48 PM 02/21/2001 +0200, Yaron Ziv wrote: > selection, schmelection) > >First, I think that the changed subject name: "Habitat selection, >schmelection" is impolite (some might even say rude) in a way that makes me >feel quite uncomfortable. >Second, I think that, at least for a certain group of people who work on >these issues on a daily basis, the difference between habitat selection nd >habitat preference is very clear. Furthermore, the distinction relies o >solid population-dynamics based body of theory. Since we will never be >able to get all the information (definitely not the heavy stuff) from >listserv discussion (which has its great contribution for other things), I >recommend those who are interested in getting into the details to go >through the relevant literature. In a previous message, I have enclosed a >list of publications. I think that reading just the following papers wi l >give a good picture on this school: > >Fretwell, S. D. and H. L. J. Lucas (1969). "On territorial behavior and >other factors influencing habitat distribution in birds." Acta >Biotheoretica 19: 16-36. > >Rosenzweig, M. L. (1991). "Habitat selection and population interactions >the search for mechanism." American Naturalist 137: S5-S28. > >Rosenzweig, M. L. and Z. Abramsky (1997). "Two gerbils of the Negev: a >long-term investigation of optimal habitat selection and its consequence ." >Evolutionary Ecology 11: 733-756. > >All the best, > >-- Yaron Ziv ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:35:48 -0500 From: "David W. Inouye" <di5@umail.umd.edu> Subject: National Park Service web site for research and collecting permits The National Park Service has created an Internet-based site for its Research and Collecting Permits. The site covers all National Park Units in the United States. The web site is: http://science.nature.nps.gov/research The web site has been designed to be a comprehensive location for researchers to: -- have the opportunity to review procedures, previous research efforts, policies, and conditional requirements before submitting a new proposal. -- search NPS-identified research preferences (the system is new and park staff may not provide this information for several months). -- complete and submit an application for a permit via the Internet. -- file required Investigator's Annual Reports via the Internet. We look forward to encouraging scientists, agencies, non-profits, and all researchers and research institutions to consider the U.S. National Parks as a good place for science that provides public benefits to all citizens. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:35:56 -0500 From: Kevin Hutton <khutton@CNIE.ORG> Subject: LA Times Request: Input on Environment & Cinema Mr. Gary Polakovic of the LA Times asked us if the scientific community had any thoughts about how environmental issues and environmentalists are portrayed in movies. If anyone has any thoughts, please respond generally or to him personally: gary.polakovic@latimes.com This might be a chance to be quoted in his article. -- Kevin Hutton, Webmaster National Council for Science and the Environment 1725 K St. NW Suite 212 Washington, DC 20006 http://www.cnie.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:40:37 -0800 From: "Jeffrey D. Corbin" <corbin@SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU> Subject: Re: Science Spending to be Slashed in first Bush Budget Chris - Help those of us who might write our local papers with the specifics What is a reference or quote regarding Bush's global warming stand? If we can juxtapose the funding priorities with past statements about the benefits of research, it will make the counterarguments that much stronger. -Jeff Corbin At 06:44 PM 2/22/01 +0000, Chris Borg wrote: >Hi folks, >It seems like the hypocriscy of this administration is showing itself >quickly... they tell the public that "more scientific research is needed >before we commit ourselves to policies such as those pertaining to globa >climate change, yet they cut research budgets. We need a concerted effo t >to bring this issue to the front of the public sector. >-Chris >FIU/SERC >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com **************************************** Jeffrey D. Corbin Department of Integrative Biology, VLSB#3060 University of California Berkeley, CA 94720-3140 (510) 643-5430 **************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:28:55 -0800 From: Beth Michaels <bamichaels@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Thanks... to those on the list who took the time to answer my preference vs. selection question, especially at this late stage in the discussion. This list is a great resource, as well as being highly entertaining on occassion (Tim!). Cheers. Beth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:44:07 -0500 From: Jonathan Stern <stern@BIO.FSU.EDU> Subject: field guide Darren, please be careful. a few years ago a friend of mine was working in eastern siberia, ate some mushrooms, and almost died. this was with people that lived in the area and knew about these things. it was odd, they made a stew with a variety of vegetables and different types of wild mushrooms. out of about a dozen people at dinner, he was the only one to get sick. i wonder what was the probability of only him eating the poison mushrooms. you would have to know the relative density of....oh, nevermind..take care and dosvedonya (i am positive the spelling is incorrect) cheers, jon -- S. Jonathan Stern, Ph.D Department of Biological Science Conradi Bldg. 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Thank you, Kristin Streng --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! --0-307450422-982874299=:64381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>Good afternoon,</P> <P>Does anyone know what would be the advantage of a plant having scen ed vegetative parts? For example both Sage and <EM>Ceanothus </ M>plants have scented vegetative parts. Is this to attract pollinators? T promote herbivory? How is scented foliage an adaptation? Thank you, </P> <P>Kristin Streng</P><p><br><hr size=1><b> Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> <a href=http://auctions.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Auctions</a> - Buy the hings you want at great prices! --0-307450422-982874299=:64381-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:32:15 -0700 From: "(Jackie Schnurr)" <schnjacl@ISU.EDU> Subject: Geology list server? Hey there, I was wondering if anyone knows of a geology list server similar to ECOLOG? Thanks for any information, Jackie Schnurr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:49:16 -0500 From: Joseph Dean Cornell <jcornell@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU> Subject: Re: scented foliage adaptation - can of worms Dear Kristin, Your question opens up a great big fat can of worms, namely, does every character confer an adaptive advantage or have a "purpose"? Who says that scent is an advantage? A more straigthforward anser to your quesiton however is that strong "scents" are associated with secondary compounds which often do confer protection from herbivory. But does every character have to have a use? My personal intuition is that, to misqoute Freud, sometimes a blue foot is just a blue foot. Yours, Joseph Cornell 301 Illick Hall SUNY ESF Syracuse, NY 13210 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, kristin streng wrote: > Does anyone know what would be the advantage of a plant having scented > vegetative parts? For example both Sage and Ceanothus plants have sce ted > vegetative parts. Is this to attract pollinators? To promote herbivor ? How > is scented foliage an adaptation? Thank you, > > Kristin Streng > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! > --0-307450422-982874299=:64381 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > <P>Good afternoon,</P> > <P>Does anyone know what would be the advantage of a plant having scented > vegetative parts? For example both Sage and <EM>Ceanothus < /EM>plants > have scented vegetative parts. Is this to attract pollinato s? To > promote herbivory? How is scented foliage an adaptation? T ank > you, </P> > <P>Kristin Streng</P><p><br><hr size=1>< b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> > <a href=http://auctions.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Auctions</a> - Buy the things you want > at great prices! > --0-307450422-982874299=:64381-- > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:41 -0900 From: John DiBari <johnd@ALASKAPACIFIC.EDU> Subject: Habitat selection/preference Dear habitat preference/selection gang: From my perspective habitat selection is either one or a combination of learned or instinctual response(s) to environmental cues. If the environment contains the presence and/or absence of proper cues required for an individual to survive, then that area (i.e., habitat) will be selected. Preference is an interesting concept. Certainly it is a judgement we as humans seem to be able to make -- though this may be a luxury. I assume it is one that other organisms are able to make too though the conditions required for it to occur may be extenuating. The problem with assigning a degree of preference to selected habitat is that the condition of the environment (at numerous scales), and the condition of the individual doing the selecting, vary. If an individual is present in an area, by definition that area is some kind of habitat (e.g., it may be breeding habitat, feeding habitat, resting habitat, dispersal habitat, etc.) However, environmental or individual conditions may be stressed to the point that the individual is responding to the presence or absence of only one (or a small number of) environmental cue(s). In this light, habitat preference is reduced to the lowest common denominator -- selection. Selection equals the minimum set of cues necessary to elicit a response of choice. To make any other choice would mean death. Yaron raised the idea of Ideal Free Distribution (IFD, Fretwell and Lucas 1969). Distribution is ideal because the individual selects habitat that will "best" meet its needs. It is free if there are no impediments (i.e., density dependent factors) to settling in or using that area. The idea behind IFD is that the highest quality habitat is selected by individuals until it assumes the characteristics of the next lowest quality habitat, then the second best quality habitat is selected until it assumes the characteristics of the next lowest quality habitat, and so on. This habitat "degradation" is the result of increasing intraspecific density. Ultimately, all habitats are of equal quality. While this is a worthy idea, I think it is more an academic explanation than a practical explanation. If IFD were carried to its logical conclusion, there would be no such thing as preferred or highest quality habitat. That is, individuals would reduce all habitat to the same quality -- relatively speaking the lowest quality. Thus, preference as it has been discussed would be moot. Rather my view is that when an organism encounters an environment with the proper cues, that area (i.e., habitat) is selected -- regardless of quality. To do otherwise would be suicide. As prior knowledge does not exist, and searching uses valuable energy and increases vulnerability, there is a potentially fatal cost of passing up low quality habitat in the "hope" of finding something better. Some individuals are just luckier than others are. Some find the "best" habitat and some find the "worst." Regardless, I would say that all individuals choose the "best" available habitat. When conditions in the lowest quality habitat become poor enough (e.g., settling cues disappear) certain individuals will leave. Some of them will be lucky and find unoccupied habitat, some maybe lucky enough to find unoccupied habitat of higher quality, some may die. I think that if we could ask individuals if they would "prefer" the best habitat they would say yes, provided they have knowledge of what that means. However, as a matter of practicality they will probably take whatever they can get. From a conservation perspective, we humans should endeavor to identify, then protect as much of the "best" quality habitat possible. This habitat ensures a large enough population that all available habitat (regardless of quality) is occupied. However, identifying the "best" quality habitat is another point for discussion. PS: Hi Yaron. This is John (Mangiameli) from Arizona. As you can see, my name has changed. ******************************************************* John DiBari Instructor & GIS Lab Manager Alaska Pacific University 4101 University Drive Anchorage, AK 99508 Phone: 907.564.8309 (office) 907.564.8352 (lab) Email: johnd@alaskapacific.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:50:26 -0700 From: Dave Whitacre <dwhitacre@PEREGRINEFUND.ORG> Subject: habitat selection--more terms for? This thread is timely for me, as I am finishing a paper on "habitat affinities" (or associations, or use, or selection) of certain raptors. What I am talking about is simply the fact that certain species were usually found in certain habitats--I don't pretend to describe their preferences. I had been leaning toward referring to these species-habitat correlations as habitat associations, habitat use, or habitat affinities (essentially interchangeably), in a purely descriptive sense--i.e., meaning that species X was often found in habitat Y, for whatever reason. I take it from discussion so far, that most people would be happiest with me calling this habitat selection? Will you veto my use of "use", "association" or "affinity"? While I understand the use of the term "habitat selection" that has been expounded here, I have never much liked the term, as it seems to me to impute more of an intentional act by the organism than may often be the case. If I am a forest eagle clinging to a traditional nest site, and hunting in the surrounding, increasingly deforested landscape--likely suboptimal, but the best I can make of a bad deal--am I selecting this habitat? Or merely using it? Am I not demonstrating a habitat association? (be it a preferred one or not). I suppose "affinity" sounds to much like preference? thanks for any thoughts, and I'll be content to let this horse die soon, Dave Whitacre -- David F. Whitacre The Peregrine Fund 566 W. Flying Hawk Lane Boise, Idaho 83709 (208) 362-3716 dwhitacre@peregrinefund.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:10:08 -0600 From: David McNeely <mcneely@UTB1.UTB.EDU> Subject: Re: scented foliage adaptation - can of worms While I agree with what Joseph says, let me suggest something. Animals develop bright colors and/or striking patterns, often in association with chemical defenses ("Look out, I stink, taste bad, bite, am toxic ........... .. "). Predators learn these features and avoid them. Many animals that prey n plants find them not only via their colors and patterns, but their volatile chemicals. Could loud smells of foliage be analogous to warning coloration n animals? If the smells are indeed associated with chemical defenses -- migh it work? Don't laugh while I can still hear you, please. Joseph Dean Cornell wrote: > Dear Kristin, > Your question opens up a great big fat can of worms, namely, does > every character confer an adaptive advantage or have a "purpose"? > Who says that scent is an advantage? A more straigthforward anser to > your quesiton however is that strong "scents" are associated with > secondary compounds which often do confer protection from herbivory. B t > does every character have to have a use? My personal intuition is that > to misqoute Freud, sometimes a blue foot is just a blue foot. > > Yours, > > Joseph Cornell > 301 Illick Hall > SUNY ESF > Syracuse, NY 13210 > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, kristin streng wrote: > > > Does anyone know what would be the advantage of a plant having sce ted > > vegetative parts? For example both Sage and Ceanothus plants hav scented > > vegetative parts. Is this to attract pollinators? To promote her ivory? How > > is scented foliage an adaptation? Thank you, > > > > Kristin Streng > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! > > --0-307450422-982874299=:64381 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > > > <P>Good afternoon,</P> > > <P>Does anyone know what would be the advantage of a plant h ving scented > > vegetative parts? For example both Sage and <EM>Ceano hus </EM>plants > > have scented vegetative parts. Is this to attract poll nators? To > > promote herbivory? How is scented foliage an adaptation?&nb p; Thank > > you, </P> > > <P>Kristin Streng</P><p><br><hr size=1> <b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> > > <a href=http://auctions.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Auctions</a> Buy the things you > want > > at great prices! > > --0-307450422-982874299=:64381-- > > -- =============================================== "Are we there yet?" Source unknown See my web page at http://unix.utb.edu/~mcneely =============================================== David L. 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Position is eligible for veteran s preference in accordance with state law. -- :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Kurt Reinhart The University of Montana Division of Biological Sciences Missoula, MT 59812 Office: (406) 243-5935 Fax: (509) 756-8036 E-mail: reinhart@selway.umt.edu "although there is a Law of the Conservation of Matter, there is no Law of the Conservation of Species." Elton 1958 ------------------------------ Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 20 Feb 2001 to 21 Feb 2001 To: Recipients of ECOLOG-L digests <ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU> Status: R There are 20 messages totalling 1323 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Humpty Dumpty (3) 2. Habitat selection, schmelection 3. ecological convergence 4. [Fwd: Dana Meadows] 5. Job: Earthwatch, Conservation Director 6. aquarium UV sterilizers??? 7. job ad: seasonal bird field work 8. Free copies of Nature's latest issue, about the human genome 9. ECOLOG-L: Clarity of scientific terminology (Re: Habitat selection, schmelection) 10. PhD RA or Postdoc 11. Climate Change Commentary 12. Fire Ecologist Positions 13. Botanical Term 14. Habitats, species, and such 15. seedbank sampling tips 16. tree ring stain solution 17. habitat selection 18. request for info on Antennaria flagellaris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:39:37 -0800 From: Heidi Hillhouse <asalufa@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: Humpty Dumpty I wish I had information on the success rates of restoration vs. preservation of ecosystems, but I don't. Maybe someone else on the list...? I can and have documented the effects of fire on some ecosystems. I wasn't stating that frequent fires can be harmeful, although that is certainly true. More, I was stating that stopping wildfires in habitat preserves can negatively impact ecosystems. Prairie systems in particular are well documented to benefit from an occasional burning, although details on what the proper interval for maximum diversity is are still under discussion. Another example- in Yellowstone forest, there are tree species specialized in reproduction after a fire- the seeds stay confined in cones or other structures and unable to germinate until the high temperatures associated with fire cause them to be released (sorry, don't have the exact tree species handy). Prairie systems are the ones I'm personally most familiar with, so my examples tend to be in those terms. I know that even the oldest restoration project that I'm aware of (over 70 years old now) has a significantly diffrent microbial community, bird community, and plant diversity and distribution than a protected (read- preserved) area close to it. Even after all we have learned, we can't come close to recreating the interactions an undisturbed area. Granted, it's possible that we are still examining too short of a time scale, but this is the best information available to date. I guess in summary, I would say that I favor neither restoration or preservation. They both have severe limitations. Whenever possible, I think that salvaging any existing community interactions in degraded ecosystems is preferable to attempting to recreate it from the bottom up. From that point of veiw, preservation provides a better starting point, even in highly degraded areas. Of course, it would be nice if neither of these practices were necessary, but the reality demands a more pragmatic approach. Heidi --- Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> wrote: > Honorable Forum: > > Common sense is often right. It also is often > wrong. That's why the > faculty of critical thinking, especially about one's > own thinking, is so > critical. > > It's easy enough to favor preservation--when it's > possible. It's easy > enough to favor restoration--when it works. > > Especially in the intermountain west, where years of > "range management" and > "forestry" have decimated ecosystems, I would like > to see some real data > demonstrating that restoration has been more > effective than > preservation. For example, how many acres have been > chained and seeded > with alien "range" grasses and to what tangible > benefit? How many of these > acres have been restored, to what tangible benefit? > > Extended fire frequencies also no doubt do have some > "devastating effects," > but where have they been quantified? > > Best, > WT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:10:42 -0800 From: Timothy Brook Smith <timsmith@UCDAVIS.EDU> Subject: Re: Habitat selection, schmelection > Honorable Forum: > > Where confusion persists, and/or communication is an exercise in semant cs, > could the terminology be weak? It would appear that either way, if they "prefer" > or "select" sub-optimal conditions that they will pay a "price" rather han > reap a "profit." And they do, yes? And the result is thus defined and the > habitat thus determined, right? Wrong? > > What are the relevant aspects of this issue and how do they fit togethe ? This issue is important for some of the same reasons the "Humpty Dumpty" thr ad has managed to persist for several days. Communities of organisms are compl x aggregations of populations and individuals that interact differently depend ng on what other organisms and habitats are present. The parts are complex and change with context. Simply recording the habitats or diet an organism selec s in one context doesn't provide certain information about the habitats it wil select elsewhere, or the conditions that are "optimal" for that species or population. Populations (or metapopulations) of organisms frequently persis in sub-optimal conditions...if you want to understand the mechanisms beneath th patterns, you need to know the difference between what they prefer and what hey select. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:09:47 -0500 From: Linda Nagel <lmnagel@MTU.EDU> Subject: Re: Humpty Dumpty Ecologists, My first question to all of you is, what are you trying to restore? Vegetation? Site? Habitat? Function? And what are you restoring back to? I don't mean to start another round of discussion, but we as scientists and managers arbitrarily choose a desirable condition based on a pre-determined benchmark (usually pre-European settlement). Then we say, let's preserve or restore back to that. You all realize, I'm sure, that this "ideal" was in fact under the influence of a "natural" disturbance regime, AND human influences at and before the time of European settlement. Second, many people are advocating for the preservation of those few remnant areas that are relatively in tact. Well, I'll buy that, but I also agree that under a strictly preservationist regime, some very important processes that maintain our "desirable" condition may be eliminated. So, we must be careful when describing what we are actually preserving. And lastly, I pose the question: what is wrong with taking areas that were heavily (or not so heavily) impacted by past human activities, and managing these lands in a way that promote vegetation development (succession, if you prefer) to accelerate, for instance, the development of more old-growth structures. (Not many of you would argue that we have less OG now than at presettlement, and most feel more OG across a given landscape would be desirable). In certain branches of forestry, for instance, we are using what we know about past disturbance type, frequency, and intensity to develop the most suitable management regime for specific forest types. In the OG example, we won't be able to "restore" all the functions of the system (rotting logs, pit-and-mound topography and resultant soil development, etc.), but we would at least be creating (or restoring) structures that are desirable (from a human, as well as a habitat perspective). In places like the Rocky Mountains, many restoration efforts are in place that combine traditional forest management with "natural" processes, such as low-intensity underburning. These restoration efforts, in combination with some preservation, may be a better way to create some type of balance in structure and function of ecosystems across the landscape. Yes, these areas will be in parts, and may not be reassembled properly (whatever that means), but what is a better alternative? LMN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:07:50 -0600 From: "J. M. Aguiar" <steelshard@TAMU.EDU> Subject: ecological convergence I have a rather naive question or two about convergence. There are plenty of examples of plain morphological convergence, from ichthyosaurs and dolphins to the marsupial "mole" Notoryctes. It comes in all shades and gradations, from some fairly striking pairs (wolves and thylacines, or Smilodon and Thylacosmilus) to less obvious, if not shaky, parallels. So, first off...is there any standard by which convergence is judged? Or is the entire concept subjective? Would morphometrics applied to one species pair have any relevance to another? And beyond that: how closely do the ecological relationships track these designs? Can we assume that near-identical forms will play near-identical roles in their respective ecosystems? Notoryctes make no permanent burrows; the soil falls in behind them as they move, and this would have quite a different effect on the oxygenation and biota of the soil than tunnelling by true talpid moles. It would be unproductive to dismiss all examples of convergence as artifacts of our own minds, as some might be tempted to do; the structures exist and are put into play around the world. But what are the ecological ramifications of these various convergences, and how far can they be carried? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:16:05 -0500 From: Jeanne or Axel Ringe <Onyxk9@IX.NETCOM.COM> Subject: [Fwd: Dana Meadows] Dear colleagues and friends; Very sad news - Dana Meadows died earlier today (Tuesday). She was a=20 mentor, colleague and friend to many of us (she was my college advisor at=20 Dartmouth) and a leader and guiding light for the environmental movement=20 (and certainly for me personally). She changed the way we all look at and=20 think about the world. She was also a strong but gentle soul who spoke=20 from her heart in many times and places when others were reluctant or=20 afraid to speak the truth. I miss her very much. Peace...Fred Meyerson P.S. Please see the fine words that Tony Cortese, Alan Atkisson, and others=20 have written below. ********************************* From: Tony Cortese, Second Nature Dear friends and colleagues, Some of you may already know this, but I wanted all of you to know that the world has lost one of the true giants in the quest for a just and sustainable world, Dana Meadows. The thought of the world without one of the brightest, most thoughtful, insightful, caring souls who truly lived the values she espoused is almost unbearable. Dana was a visionary, the first of the great systems thinkers that have helped us all see the world in a holistic and interdependent way, a great teacher, an outstanding mentor to thousands of people (including me) and a gifted communicator. She used all of those and many other wonderful attributes to benefit all people and the rest of the natural world.=20 Dana was always one step ahead of everyone in anticipating or seeing the next challenge humans and the rest of the natural world would face and offering creative strategies to deal with them. She was the Cassandra (as Alan Atkisson would say) that people believed. She never shied away from calling governments, industries, environmentalists, journalists and others to task for policies, behaviors or actions that were unjust, harmful, ineffective or just plain dumb. She never let people who read her weekly column, "The Global Citizen", people she interacted with in other ways or her students get away with denial of things that have been wrong in the world. And Dana did it in a way that made you stop, think and be willing to look yourself in the face and see the truth or to take action to right a wrong. Dana was always hopeful and inspiring and a strong believer in the ability of humans to change and reach a higher, more just and ethical way of being. But Dana's most endearing and admirable quality was to give of herself and her ideas with great humility and joy to everyone who would accept her incredible gifts. I know that these few words are inadequate to express all that Dana has meant to me and to the world. In the days ahead others who are far more eloquent will be filling cyberspace and other media with the tributes Dana so richly deserves. She was too young, too vibrant and too important to the world to die this young. I am grateful for all the years that she was alive, for everything that she had to and did share and that I had the privilege of knowing her and learning from her. May we always remember the things she has taught us and the example that she set for us all to emulate. With gratitude, deep sadness and much love, Tony p.s. See note from Joan Davis and obituary below. ---------------------- Anthony Cortese, Sc.D. President Second Nature, Inc. 99 Chauncy Street, Sixth Floor Boston, MA 02111 USA Tel: 617-292-7771 ext. 120 Fax: 617-292-0150 Email: acortese@secondnature.org http://www.secondnature.org ---------- From: Joan Davis <davis@EAWAG.CH> Reply-To: Joan Davis <davis@EAWAG.CH> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 04:21:08 +0100 To: BALATON@LISTSERV.DARTMOUTH.EDU Subject: Re: Dana's obituary for international newspapers Dear Friends, Donella Meadows, Lead Author of The Limits to Growth, Has Died Donella H. Meadows, 59, a pioneering environmental scientist and writer, died Tuesday in New Hampshire after a brief illness. She was best known to the world as the lead author of the international bestselling book The Limits to Growth, published in 1972. The book, which reported on a study of long-term global trends in population, economics, and the environment, sold millions of copies and was translated into 28 languages. She was also the lead author of the twenty-year follow-up study, Beyond the Limits (1992), with original co-authors Dennis Meadows and J=F8rgen Randers. Professor Meadows, known as "Dana" to friends and colleagues, was a leading voice in what has become known as the "sustainability movement," an international effort to reverse damaging trends in the environment, economy, and social systems. Her work is widely recognized as a formative influence on hundreds of other academic studies, government policy initiatives, and international agreements. Dana Meadows was also a devoted teacher of environmental systems, ethics, and journalism to her students at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, where she taught for 29 years. In addition to her many original contributions to systems theory and global trend analysis, she managed a small farm and was a vibrant member of her local community. Genuinely unconcerned with her international fame, she often referred to herself simply as "a farmer and a writer." Donella Meadows was born March 13, 1941 in Elgin, Illinois, and educated in science, earning a B.A. in chemistry from Carleton College in 1963 and a Ph.D. in biophysics from Harvard University in 1968. As a research fellow at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, she was a prot=E9g=E9 of Jay Forrester, the inventor of system dynamics as well as the principle of magnetic data storage for computers. In 1972 she was on the MIT team that produced the global computer model "World3" for the Club of Rome and provided the basis for The Limits to Growth. The book made headlines around the world, and began a debate about the limits of the Earth's capacity to support human economic expansion, a debate that continues to this day. Her writing - appearing most often in the form of a weekly column called "The Global Citizen," nominated for the Pulitzer Prize in 1991 -- has been published regularly in the international press since that time. In 1981, together with her former husband Dennis Meadows, Donella Meadows founded the International Network of Resource Information Centers (INRIC), also called the Balaton Group (after the lake in Hungary where the group meets annually). The group built early and critical avenues of exchange between scientists on both sides of the Iron Curtain at the height of the Cold War. As the Balaton Group's coordinator for eighteen years, she facilitated what grew to become an unusually effective global process of information sharing and collaboration among hundreds of leading academics, researchers, and activists in the broader sustainability movement. Professor Meadows also served on many national and international boards and scientific committees, and taught and lectured all over the world. She was recognized as a 1991 Pew Scholar and as a 1994 MacArthur Fellow for her work. In 1992 the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) presented her with an honorary doctorate. In 1997, Professor Meadows founded the Sustainability Institute, which she described as a "think-do-tank." The Institute combines cutting edge research in global systems with practical demonstrations of sustainable living, including the development of an ecological village and organic farm in Hartland Four Corners, Vermont. Donella Meadows is survived by her mother, Phoebe Quist of Tahlequah Oklahoma; her father, Don Hager of the Chicago area; a brother, Jason Hager, of Wisconsin; cousins and nephews; and a large community of colleagues and friends, both international and local, in the organizations that she founded and assisted. ____________________ Obituary prepared by members of the Balaton Group (INRIC) For further information contact: In USA: alan@atkisson.com (In New England: bmiller@vermontel.net) In Europe: davis@eawag.ch In Asia:arevi@taru.org ************************************************************ Dr. Frederick A.B. Meyerson Watson Institute for International Studies Box 1831, 130 Hope Street Brown University Providence, RI 02912 Tel: (401) 863-3067 Fax: (401) 863-2192 E-mail: Frederick_Meyerson@brown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:38:04 -0500 From: "David W. Inouye" <di5@umail.umd.edu> Subject: Job: Earthwatch, Conservation Director EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY available February 2001 EARTHWATCH INSTITUTE Conservation Director Earthwatch Institute (EWI) is an international nonprofit organization that supports scientific field research worldwide by offering members of the public unique opportunities to work alongside leading field scientists and researchers. The Institute's mission is to promote sustainable conservation of our natural resources and cultural heritage by creating partnerships between scientists, educators and the general public. EWI is seeking a Director of Conservation. The Earthwatch Institute (EWI) Director of Conservation will be responsible for developing and managing the Conservation Program at EWI. This includes strategic planning for the Program and management of a $5M, 5-year grant from the Ford Motor Company for the EWI Conservation Initiative. 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A Ph.D. or equivalent degree or experience is required, as are demonstrated abilities to obtain funding, to manage interdisciplinary projects, and to effectively communicate and study complex conservation issues. Also required are leadership abilities and entrepreneurial spirit necessary to establish and maintain the Conservation Initiative as an internationally, well-respected Program. Send resumes to: Tara Carey, Earthwatch Institute, PO Box 75, Maynard, MA 01754 or, preferably, email to: tcarey@earthwatch.org. -- M. Blue Magruder Director of Public Affairs Earthwatch Institute 3 Clock Tower Place Maynard, MA 01754-0075 Phone: 800-776-0188 or 978-461-0081 ext 136 Fax: 978-461-2332 http://www.earthwatch.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:30:38 EST From: "{E. Guy Stephens}" <Darwinthedog@AOL.COM> Subject: Re: aquarium UV sterilizers??? Wes, I have used sterilizers from the following companies: Rainbow Lifeguard, Hawaiian Marine and Aquanetics. All seemed to work equally well, although have a slight preference for the Rainbow Lifeguard unit. I would probably suggest a 25-40 watt unit based on the information you provided. Such a un t would run you about $100-200. Guy E. Guy Stephens Fisheries Biologist District of Columbia Government Fisheries and Wildlife Division gstephens@dchealth.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:21:46 -0800 From: Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> Subject: Re: Humpty Dumpty Honorable Forum: As I interpret the issue to be bounded, I do not disagree with Heidi. I am in closest concordance with the statements and inferences that "we don't know." At least I don't--for "sure." Fire does have effects on ecosystems, undisturbed and disturbed (as my blackened shoes can testify), as do shoes, tire-tracks, hoofprints, paws, aliens, ad infinitum. All of these things can be seen as influence which variously cause damage and provide heterogeneity, thus diversity. (I have a nice photo somewhere of a riot of "refugee" flowers growing in the habitat damage caused by tire ruts--more common species were displaced to provide a niche for a less-common species. No, I am not suggesting that this validates off-road mania, only that objectivity demands that such influences not be ignored.) I see both "positive" and "negative" effects, but Heidi is quite perceptive, I submit, that the consequences may not have sufficiently played out over time. Has "the jury" concluded that MORE diversity always is "better," as in the restoration project (not fully) cited? Are the "additional" organisms truly those species which were previously present (indigenous to the site) or added from other sites to "increase diversity?" My admittedly provincial and casual observations of coastal sage scrub here along the Southern California coast leave me with the impression that to a greater or lesser degree (depending largely, it appears, on soils) "grassland" ascension to "dominance" is fire-dependent, but "re-invasion" by shrubs occurs as part of an apparent cycle or fluctuation in the composition and dominance relations of the ecosystem subsystem. I often have wondered if there might be a similar mechanism or dynamic occurring in Great Plains and other prairie and savanna ecosystems. I have not seen the mid-continent ecosystems in action (I should live so long?), but if I envision it correctly (I undoubtedly do not) colonization and/or recolonization by woody species is a common occurrence there too. Is this "unnatural?" I ask again: It the point of relevance with respect to understanding changes in ecosystems more related to hard numbers or general trends? Best, WT At 08:39 PM 02/20/2001 -0800, Heidi Hillhouse wrote: >I wish I had information on the success rates of >restoration vs. preservation of ecosystems, but I >don't. Maybe someone else on the list...? > >I can and have documented the effects of fire on some >ecosystems. I wasn't stating that frequent fires can >be harmeful, although that is certainly true. More, I >was stating that stopping wildfires in habitat >preserves can negatively impact ecosystems. Prairie >systems in particular are well documented to benefit >from an occasional burning, although details on what >the proper interval for maximum diversity is are still >under discussion. Another example- in Yellowstone >forest, there are tree species specialized in >reproduction after a fire- the seeds stay confined in >cones or other structures and unable to germinate >until the high temperatures associated with fire cause >them to be released (sorry, don't have the exact tree >species handy). > >Prairie systems are the ones I'm personally most >familiar with, so my examples tend to be in those >terms. I know that even the oldest restoration >project that I'm aware of (over 70 years old now) has >a significantly diffrent microbial community, bird >community, and plant diversity and distribution than a >protected (read- preserved) area close to it. Even >after all we have learned, we can't come close to >recreating the interactions an undisturbed area. >Granted, it's possible that we are still examining too >short of a time scale, but this is the best >information available to date. > >I guess in summary, I would say that I favor neither >restoration or preservation. They both have severe >limitations. Whenever possible, I think that >salvaging any existing community interactions in >degraded ecosystems is preferable to attempting to >recreate it from the bottom up. From that point of >veiw, preservation provides a better starting point, >even in highly degraded areas. Of course, it would be >nice if neither of these practices were necessary, but >the reality demands a more pragmatic approach. > >Heidi > >--- Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> wrote: > > Honorable Forum: > > > > Common sense is often right. It also is often > > wrong. That's why the > > faculty of critical thinking, especially about one's > > own thinking, is so > > critical. > > > > It's easy enough to favor preservation--when it's > > possible. It's easy > > enough to favor restoration--when it works. > > > > Especially in the intermountain west, where years of > > "range management" and > > "forestry" have decimated ecosystems, I would like > > to see some real data > > demonstrating that restoration has been more > > effective than > > preservation. For example, how many acres have been > > chained and seeded > > with alien "range" grasses and to what tangible > > benefit? How many of these > > acres have been restored, to what tangible benefit? > > > > Extended fire frequencies also no doubt do have some > > "devastating effects," > > but where have they been quantified? > > > > Best, > > WT > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! 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The study area is easy to access and is located about one hour from Las Vegas. All candidates should have the following qualifications: 1. Excellent birding skills, including an ability to recognize southwestern desert birdsongs. 2. Their own car or truck (4WD not necessary), expenses for which shall be reimbursed. 3. An ability to troubleshoot and improvise, and to get along with the diverse human inhabitants of a rapidly urbanizing and politically complex region. The first of the three qualifications is by far the most important. We are happy to consider joint applications from two people interested working together on this project. If you are interested in this job, please submit the following materials: 1. A one-page letter describing your interests and expertise as they relate to this position, plus a phone number and e-mail address where you can be reached. 2. A one-page resume or curriculum vitae. 3. Names, titles, and phone numbers for two references. Send your application packet, as three separate pages, to: Ted Floyd Great Basin Bird Observatory One East First Street, Suite 500 Reno, Nevada 89501 All materials must be received by 1 April 2001. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:31:28 -0500 From: "David W. Inouye" <di5@umail.umd.edu> Subject: Free copies of Nature's latest issue, about the human genome Great news! Due to massive demand, Nature has arranged for a limited run of the genome issue to be distributed FREE to select members of the scientific community. 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Visit the Nature Genome Gateway at http://www.nature.com/genomics for free access to these landmark papers, including comment and analysis. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:06:48 -0800 From: Wayne Tyson <landrest@UTM.NET> Subject: ECOLOG-L: Clarity of scientific terminology (Re: Habitat selection, schmelection) Honorable Forum: First, I hope that this "thread" will continue until the questions submitted are clearly resolved and our (or at least my) ignorance is clearly delineated. It seems to me that this "thread" is a highly important one, and that to abandon it unresolved and undelineated would be, shall we say, "un-courageous? Please help me! I still have trouble with "prefer" and "select" and the crucial distinctions between the two terms. Do not organisms occupy all kinds of habitats (as we decide to define them), but thrive best where habitat conditions are better than "fringe" conditions? If this is true, what are the "selection" and "preference" mechanisms? It seems to me that "selection" is a genetic/evolution term, quite valid, useful, and highly relevant to this discussion in this context. I suppose it's ok for both terms to be used and distinguished by context, but where confusion can occur, clarity would appear to be better option. For example: When an organism selects a habitat that it prefers, that organism's tolerance limits are tested, stressed. This causes a sorting-out of the most adaptive genetic characters, resulting in the development of ecotypes along a habitat gradient. Mutations which confer survival advantages to the organism are selected for, and the altered form of the stressed organism can now select the new habitat it prefers. (This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, I admit, but does it serve to advance or retard the discussion? What are its flaws?) Some organisms (e.g. methanotropic bacteria?) have rather limited habitat requirements and thus occupy limited habitats. They are, however, ubiquitous, as are their habitat conditions. Is this a matter of "scale," or would that start a whole new debate about terminology and the need for clarity in communication? Others (e.g. coast redwoods) are much more limited in their distribution? Why is this? Why have the organisms with the apparently tight habitat requirements lasted so much longer? Is it, as my wife says, that "death was invented by sex?" But please don't digress from the original thread--clarity of scientific terminology--start a new one if you wish to discuss these questions. I have tried to be more clear, ironically, and less flip in re-naming the threat subject line. Forgive me. Respectfully submitted, WT At 09:10 PM 02/20/2001 -0800, Timothy Brook Smith wrote: > > Honorable Forum: > > > > Where confusion persists, and/or communication is an exercise in s mantics, > > could the terminology be weak? > >It would appear that either way, if they "prefer" > > or "select" sub-optimal conditions that they will pay a "price" ra her than > > reap a "profit." And they do, yes? And the result is thus define and the > > habitat thus determined, right? Wrong? > > > > What are the relevant aspects of this issue and how do they fit to ether? > > >This issue is important for some of the same reasons the "Humpty Dumpty" >thread >has managed to persist for several days. Communities of organisms are c mplex >aggregations of populations and individuals that interact differently >depending >on what other organisms and habitats are present. The parts are complex and >change with context. Simply recording the habitats or diet an organism s lects >in one context doesn't provide certain information about the habitats it will >select elsewhere, or the conditions that are "optimal" for that species r >population. Populations (or metapopulations) of organisms frequently >persist in > >sub-optimal conditions...if you want to understand the mechanisms beneat the >patterns, you need to know the difference between what they prefer and >what they > >select. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:29:21 -0600 From: "Mladenoff, David J." <djmladen@FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU> Subject: PhD RA or Postdoc --=====================_55564589==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed PhD Assistantship or Postdoc Forest Landscape Ecology I have an opening for a PhD grad assistant or postdoc in the area of landscape ecology, integrating ecosystems and vegetation ecology. The project would be an extension of our work on the NW Wisconsin Pine Barrens (see lab web site below for details), assessing the dynamics and drivers of landscape change. The Pine Barrens is a sandy outwash plain formerly dominated by pine forest, savanna, and open 'barrens' or northern prairie. Fire and jack pine budworm disturbances predominate. Work would involve establishing a large network of plots across the Barrens landscape, in coordination with companion studies of pollen and charcoal in lake sediments, ecosystem processes (decomposition and C and N dynamics), and modeling. The emphasis is on past landscape states, lagacies, and disturbances. The work would involve developing research questions and collecting vegetation (composition, diversity, exotics), productivity, and possibly soil N and C data, in a matrix landscape of past fire, forest harvesting, agriculture, and re-forestation. The research may include both field work and modeling. Desired qualifications are an MS degree, with strong training in landscape and ecosystems ecology, good quantitative skills, and field experience. The position is open immediately (February 2001), and would ideally be filled by spring. A fall start is possible. The Forest Landscape Ecology Lab is a very interactive and collaborative environment, and similar-minded candidates are sought. A graduate research assistantship is currently around $16000 annually, and includes health benefits, and full tuition remission. Funding is in hand for 3-4 years. Applicants should visit the lab web site http://landscape.forest.wisc.edu and send via email djmladen@facstaff.wisc.edu the following: Statement of experience and interests, unofficial transcript, resume, coordinates for three references, and GREs if available. I will also be attending the US Landscape Ecology meeting in April in Arizona, and the SAF/ESA Forest Ecology Conference in Duluth in June. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ---------------------- David J. Mladenoff Editor-in-Chief, Landscape Ecolog Associate Professor www.wkap.nl/journals/landscape Forest Landscape Ecology Lab http://landscape.forest.wisc.edu djmladen@facstaff.wisc.edu Department of Forest Ecology & Mgmt., University of Wisconsin-Madison 1630 Linden Drive, Madison, WI 53706 USA http://forest.wisc.edu/ --=====================_55564589==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <div align="center"> PhD Assistantship or Postdoc<br> Forest Landscape Ecology<br> <br> </div> I have an opening for a PhD grad assistant or postdoc in the area of landscape ecology, integrating ecosystems and vegetation ecology. The project would be an extension of our work on the NW Wisconsin Pine Barrens (see lab web site below for details), assessing the dynamics and drivers of landscape change. The Pine Barrens is a sandy outwash plain formerly dominated by pine forest, savanna, and open 'barrens' or northern prairie. Fire and jack pine budworm disturbances predominate. <br> <br> Work would involve establishing a large network of plots across the Barrens landscape, in coordination with companion studies of pollen and charcoal in lake sediments, ecosystem processes (decomposition and C and N dynamics), and modeling. The emphasis is on past landscape states, lagacies, and disturbances. The work would involve developing research questions and collecting vegetation (composition, diversity, exotics), productivity, and possibly soil N and C data, in a matrix landscape of past fire, forest harvesting, agriculture, and re-forestation. The research may include both field work and modeling. <br> <br> Desired qualifications are an MS degree, with strong training in landscape and ecosystems ecology, good quantitative skills, and field experience. The position is open immediately (February 2001), and would ideally be filled by spring. A fall start is possible. The Forest Landscape Ecology Lab is a very interactive and collaborative environment, and similar-minded candidates are sought.<br> <br> A graduate research assistantship is currently around $16000 annually, and includes health benefits, and full tuition remission. Funding is in hand for 3-4 years.<br> <br> Applicants should visit the lab web site <a href="http://landscape.forest.wisc.edu/" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://landscape.forest.wisc.</a><a href="http://landscape.forest.wisc.edu/" eudora="autourl">edu</a>< /u></font> and send via email <font color="#0000FF"><u>djmladen@facstaff.wisc.edu</u></font> the following: Statement of experience and interests, unofficial transcript, resume, coordinates for three references, and GREs if available.<br> <br> I will also be attending the US Landscape Ecology meeting in April in Arizon , and the SAF/ESA Forest Ecology Conference in Duluth in June.<br> <br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ----------------------<br> David J. Mladenoff nbs p; & bsp ; Editor-in-Chief, <i> Landscape Ecology<br> </i>Associate Professor nbs p; & bsp ; <a href="http://www.wkap.nl/journals/lan scape" eudora="autourl">www.wkap.nl/journals/landscape</a><br> <br> <br> Forest Landscape Ecology Lab <a href="http://landscape.forest.wisc. du/" eudora="autourl">http://landscape.forest.wisc.edu</a><br> djmladen@facstaff.wisc.edu<br> Department of Forest Ecology & Mgmt., University of Wisconsin-Madison< br> 1630 Linden Drive, Madison, WI 53706 USA <br> <a href="http://forest.wisc.edu/" eudora="autourl">http://forest.wisc. du/</a> </html> --=====================_55564589==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:38:46 -0700 From: Interhemispheric Resource Center <ircalb@SWCP.COM> Subject: Climate Change Commentary ----------------------------------------------------------- FOREIGN POLICY IN FOCUS http://fpif.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Colleagues, Below is a link to a new commentary by Ross Gelbspan, author of the "Heat is On." For a complete listing of policy briefs, reports and commentaries on U.S. international environmental policy, visit: http://fpif.org/indices/topics/environment.htm best regards, Tim U.S. Scuttles Latest Chance to Avert Global Warming Catastrophe By Ross Gelbspan http://fpif.org/commentary/0102warming.html Given the U.S. performance at the latest round of global warming negotiations at the Hague, it's hard to see how George W. Bush could do any worse than the Clinton-Gore administration. The U.S. has isolated itself not only from its European allies, but also from developing countries and even a growing number of corporations. America has given new meaning to the term "outlaw nation." It's not as though the danger signs were hidden from U.S. negotiators. Within the past year, drought-driven wildfires consumed more than six million acres in the West. The nine-foot-deep ice pack at the North Pole melted into a mile-wide lake. And more than 2,000 scientists reported to the UN that warming later in this century exceed their previous estimates of 6=BA F and will more likely approach a catastrophic 11=BA F. ----------------------------------------------------------- FOREIGN POLICY IN FOCUS http://fpif.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:03:01 -0600 From: Jim Decoster <Jim_DeCoster@NPS.GOV> Subject: Fire Ecologist Positions There are 8 openings for fire ecologists (GS-7 -GS-11) in the National Park Service in the following parks: Big Bend National Park Big Thicket National Park and Preserve Crater Lake National Park Great Smoky Mountain National Park Santa Monica Mountains National Rec Area Voyageurs National Park Wilson's Creek National Battlefield Wind Cave National Park The positions are "ecoregional" in nature, covering a number of parks. The positions are open to federal employees and people outside the government. One can apply to a number of the positions with one application. Details and application information can be obtained at the following web sites. US Government employees: http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/wfjic/jobs/IR6242.HTM Outside the government: http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/wfjic/jobs/IR6233.HTM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:08:03 -0500 From: Howard S Neufeld <neufeldhs@APPSTATE.EDU> Subject: Botanical Term Dear All, We are working with an evergreen, understory herb called Galax urceolata (formerly G. aphylla). It is clonal. Each plant is composed of several leaves attached to a short underground rhizome. Ramets are connected by long underground runners that grow out of the rhizome. What should we call the runners? Normally, runners refer to aboveground connections. Thanks for your help. Howie Neufeld ------------------------------------------ Howard S. Neufeld, Professor 572 Rivers St. P.O. Box 32027 Dept. of Biology Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608-2027 ------------------------------------------ Tel. 828-262-2683 FAX 828-262-2127 ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:46:14 -0800 From: Stan Rowe <stanrowe@NETIDEA.COM> Subject: Habitats, species, and such --=====================_4156349==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Say Wayne, isn't the problem that the complexity of ecosystems (not communities plus environment) exceeds the complexity of the circuitry of our brains? So in good scientific reductive fashion we jump on the things we think we can handle, the simple parts, the individual organisms generalized as "species." We think that we can preserve or restore species if we can just get the hang of it and therefore set our minds to that task, focusing on particular plants and animals to which we attribute "habitat preferences" and the ability to "select habitats." Of course these are over-simplifications, as "habitat" is one of the wooly words. Strict "preservation" alone maintains the structure and function of semi-natural and natural ecosystems such as Old Growth Forests on Fire-Proof Well-Watered Landforms With Cool Microclimates and Suitable Soils. "Restoration" will always be a relative term, meaning to the sensitive: "Gee we're sorry we were so stoopid, and now we'd like to make amends, but we don't really know how, so we're doing the best we can." To which the Earth might well respond with two words: Lay Off ! Stan --=====================_4156349==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> Say Wayne, isn't the problem that the complexity of ecosystems (<b>not</b> communities plus environment) exceeds the complexity of the circuitry of our brains? So in good scientific reductive fashion we jump on the things we think we can handle, the simple parts, the individual organisms generalized as "species." We think that we can preserve or restore species if we can just get the hang of it and therefore set our minds to that task, focusing on particular plants and animals to which we attribute "habitat preferences" and the ability to "select habitats." Of course these are over-simplifications, as "habitat" is one of the wooly words. Strict "preservation" alone maintains the structure and function of semi-natural and natural ecosystems such as Old Growth Forests on Fire-Proof Well-Watered Landforms With Cool Microclimates and Suitable Soils. "Restoration" will always be a relative term, meaning to the sensitive: "Gee we're sorry we were so stoopid, and now we'd like to make amends, but we don't really know how, so we're doing the best we can." To which the Earth might well respond with two words: <b>Lay Off !<br> </b><x-tab> </ -tab>Stan<br> </html> --=====================_4156349==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:35:23 -0700 From: Kurt Reinhart <Reinhart@SELWAY.UMT.EDU> Subject: seedbank sampling tips Greetings, I plan on doing a manipulative experiment using the seedbank from native riparian areas and areas invaded with Norway maple in Montana. Do any of you have any suggestions regarding sampling of the seedbank and techniques for extracting seeds? I've seen people use soil probes to collect samples that are ca. 2 cm in width and some user defined depth. I am more interested in sampling just the upper 2-5cm of soil and as large a width as possible (rocky soil will limit diameter of sample). I've thought of using aluminum tins to punch into the soil. The soil is extremely rocky in areas (much better than most of MT) and will likely beat up probes, tins, etc. Any firsthand tips or recommended reading will be greatly appreciated. Kurt -- Kurt Reinhart University of Montana Division of Biological Sciences Missoula, MT 59812 Office: (406) 243-5935 Fax: (509) 756-8036 E-mail: Reinhart@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:17:04 -0600 From: Thomas Rosburg <thomas.rosburg@DRAKE.EDU> Subject: tree ring stain solution I have a student counting tree rings of tree stem sections. On some of the dogwood, the rings are difficult to see. I have a bottle of phloroglucinol powder and thought we would mix a staining solution and try that. My instructions for making the mix have been misplaced. I remember the solution requires 95% ethyl alcohol and 50% hydrochloric acid?? Can anyone share with me the instructions for preparing the solution and any other special staining techniques or advice? Thanks!! Thomas Rosburg Department of Biology Drake University 515-271-2920 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:45:34 -0800 From: Beth Michaels <bamichaels@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: habitat selection Greetings list folk. I too find this discussion confusing. In my admitted naivete, I take "prefer" to mean "choose an ideal ___ from an infinite array of options", and "select" to mean "choose one______ from a limited array of possibly less desirable options." Will anyone be so kind as to enlighten me? Beth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:51:12 -0800 From: Ksenia Barton <kbarton@INTERGATE.CA> Subject: request for info on Antennaria flagellaris ECOLOG readers: I am writing to request information about the plant species Antennaria flagellaris (stoloniferous pussytoes). In Canada, this plant is known from o ly 3 locations (within a 3 km stretch) in the eastern Cascade Mountains. Becaus little is known about the habitat and management of this plant in Canada, I m hoping that American botanists/ecologists can give me some insight on this p ant and/or provide some references. Here are some questions that I have: In what type of plant community have you seen Antennaria flagellaris growing What plant species commonly co-occur with Antennaria flagellaris? Does Antennaria flagellaris commonly grow on a certain terrain feature, microsite, or soil type? At what time of year does Antennaria flagellaris flower and set seed? Have you ever observed a population of Antennaria flagellaris to have declin d due to anthropogenic impacts (including cattle grazing, horseback riding, off-road vehicle use, human trampling, noxious weed control programs, change in fire ecology, timber harvesting programs, agricultural use)? If you have seen Antennaria flagellaris growing in a cattle grazed area, how would you describe the range condition and utilization? Please respond to me directly - I will post a summary of replies. Please als include the geographic area where you have observed this plant in your reply Thanks in advance, Ksenia Barton ========================= Ksenia Barton, MSc, RPBio ------------------------- kbarton@intergate.ca ========================= ------------------------------ End of ECOLOG-L Digest - 20 Feb 2001 to 21 Feb 2001 *************************************************** ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
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