ECOLOG-L Digest - 29 Jan 2001 to 30 Jan 2001
Subject: ECOLOG-L Digest - 29 Jan 2001 to 30 Jan 2001 To: Recipients of ECOLOG-L digests <ECOLOG-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU> Status: R There are 17 messages totalling 763 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. job: limnology lab tech 2. Fire Ecology Field Assistant Opportunity in the Florida Keys 3. graduate student assistantships 4. TenureTrack-Marine Biology 5. Stats question about technician bias (4) 6. FullProfessor-DirectorEnvSci 7. botanical help (2) 8. Ecological Symposium 9. FW: Stats question about technician bias 10. Job Announcement (2) 11. A Summer Program of Independent Research in Ecology for Undergrad uates 12. Cerulean Warbler Study ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:44:45 -0600 From: Amy E Galford <galf0001@TC.UMN.EDU> Subject: job: limnology lab tech Please reply to stern007@tc.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------ POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT BIOLOGICAL LIMNOLOGY TECHNICIAN UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA LABORATORY OF DR. ROBERT STERNER Description: I am seeking an individual for a full-time position in my aquatic ecology laboratory in St. Paul, MN. This is an opportunity to join an active and well-supported laboratory by contributing to data collection and data management in the laboratory and in the field. Qualifications: I am looking for an individual with an undergraduate degree in limnology or related discipline, and with some experience in the identification of zooplankton, algae, or both. Ability to work as a team member is very important. Ability to perform disciplined laboratory procedures and keep good records is essential. Ability to perform physically demanding fieldwork occasionally is essential. Some spreadsheet experience is essential. Some formal training in algal or invertebrate taxonomy is desired, and continued advanced training will be encouraged. Knowledge of microbiological clean technique is desired. Database experience is a plus. Familiarity with good microscope technique is desired. Duties of the selected individual will be: Culture of algae and zooplankton (making of medium, monitoring of cultures, transfers of zooplankton, operation of microbalance) (30%) Microscopic enumeration of phytoplankton and zooplankton. (30%) Perform laboratory growth experiments on algae and zooplankton in the laboratory (30%) Field sampling (5%) Data management (5%) Availability The position will be filled as soon as possible. Funding is in place for at least two years. Salary and Benefits: the salary range for this position (listed in the Senior Laboratory Technician class) is $10.15 - $15.66 per hour. Starting salary will be depending on applicants qualifications. Benefits include retirement, health insurance, and vacation and sick leave. This position is covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act. To apply Send a letter of interest, a resume, academic transcripts, and names of two or three references to: Dr. Robert W. Sterner Ecology, Evolution and Behavior University of Minnesota 100 Ecology; 1987 Upper Buford Circle St. Paul, MN 55108 For more information Please see my lab's web site at http://sterner.cbs.umn.edu The University of Minnesota is an equal opportunity educator and empoyer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:04:25 -0000 From: Chris Borg <ckborg@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Fire Ecology Field Assistant Opportunity in the Florida Keys <html><DIV> <P><U>PLEASE POST IN YOUR DEPARTMENTS</U></P> <P>Florida Keys Fire Ecology Field Assistants:</P> <P>The Lower Florida Keys is a dynamic and diverse ecosystem composed f coral reef, mangrove forest, subtropical hardwood hammock, and fire dependent pin rockland. Pine rockland is a globally endangered subtropical community harboring many rare and endemic plant and animal species. In 1997 a multiag ncy initiative was undertaken to better understand the seasonal role of fire in this system. Currently we are seeking two field assistants for an eight-mon h term (ca. May - December 2001). Housing and a stipend of $250.00 biweekly w ll be provided. Successful applicants will be responsible for assisting the project manager collect and enter data pertaining to the diversity, abundan e, biomass, and phenology of herbs and shrubs. Additional responsibilities wil include monitoring Florida Key Deer herbivory, collecting and maintaining herbarium specimens, and assisting our prescribed burn crew. Desired qualifications include demonstrating a strong interest in plant ecology and taxonomy, high tolerance of hot, hum id, and sometimes "buggy" conditions, and strong academic credentials. Junio s and seniors and recent graduates are encouraged to apply. Send letter of interest, resume, one letter of recommendation, and contact information for two additional references <U>postmarked by</U> <U>March 10< /U> to:</P> <P>-Mr. Chris K. Borg; Project Manager; Florida Internatio al University / Southeast Environmental Research Center; Lower Keys Fiel Station; Post Office Box 432032; Big Pine Key, Florida 33043</P></DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE down oad of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br> </p></html> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:45:10 -0600 From: "Matthew J. Parris" <mparris@MEMPHIS.EDU> Subject: graduate student assistantships PhD and MS Assistantships EVOLUTIONARY ECOLOGY OF AMPHIBIANS Applications are being sought for students interested in pursuing an academic career in the evolutionary ecology of amphibians in the laboratory of Matthew Parris in the Department of Biology at the University of Memphis. Research in my lab focuses on the evolutionary ecology of species interactions, organismal hybridization, and the impact of diseases on amphibian population ecology. Please see www.people.memphis.edu/~biology/parris.html for details. The Department of Biology offers a strong environment for evolutionary ecology training. Students will benefit from interactions with other faculty interested in evolutionary questions: William Gutzke (herpetological ecological physiology), Jerry Wolff (mammalian population and behavioral ecology), Michael Ferkin (animal behavior), and Stephan Schoech (avian behavioral endocrinology). The University of Memphis is committed to excellence in graduate training. PhD stipends are $14,500 / 11 months and MS stipends $9,000 / 8 months, with tuition expenses waived for both. GRE (verbal and quantitative) scores of 1100 for PhD and 1000 for MS, and Advanced Biology Test score in the 50th percentile (PhD only) are minimum requirements. Please also see the Department of Biology (www.people.memphis.edu/~biology) and University of Memphis (www.memphis.edu) web sites for more information. Matthew J. Parris Assistant Professor Department of Biology University of Memphis Memphis, TN 38152 phone: (901) 678-4408 fax: (901) 678-4746 email: mparris@memphis.edu web: www.people.memphis.edu/~biology/parris.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:04:21 -0500 From: Marguerite Koch <mkoch@FAU.EDU> Subject: TenureTrack-Marine Biology TENURE-TRACK ASSOCIATE/ASSISTANT FACULTY POSITION IN MARINE BIOLOGY The Department of Biological Sciences at Florida Atlantic University seeks applicants for a tenure-track Associate or Assistant Professor in Marine Biology. The specific area of research is open, but priority will be given to candidates with a background in developmental biology, physiology, immunology, evolutionary biology, population genetics, or ecology. The candidate will be expected to incorporate modern research techniques that could build bridges between the Department's current strengths in ecology, physiology, animal behavior, and molecular biology, and be able to take advantage of local coral reef environments. The applicant should expect to advise graduate students and to support a research program through external funding. The selection committee will emphasize publications, post-doctoral training, teaching experience, and the ability to acquire grant funding. Please submit a curriculum vitae, statement of research and teaching interests, reprints, and a list of three referees to: Dr.Marguerite Koch, Search Committee Co-Chair, Department of Biological Sciences, Florida Atlantic University, 777 Glades Rd, Boca Raton, FL33431-0991. Application Deadline February 28, 2001. Florida Atlantic University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. Marguerite S. Koch-Rose, Ph.D. Aquatic Plant Ecology Laboratory Biological Sciences Department Florida Atlantic University 777 Glades Road Boca Raton, FL 33431 Phone:(561)297-3325 Fax: (561) 297-2749 <mkoch@fau.edu> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:04:24 -0700 From: "Aaron R. Ellingson" <are@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Stats question about technician bias At 02:55 PM 1/29/01 -0500, you wrote: >Ecologgers, >Suppose you are conducting a long-term experiment which is long enough t >require multiple technicians to succeed one another in data collection. s >there a way to determine the error introduced by technician bias? If so, >can long-term data be corrected for this error so that the true treatmen >effect can be more accurately observed? >Thanks for any input. Brandon, Bias is technically defined as the difference between the the expected ("average") value of an estimator and the "true" value of the parameter being estimated. Since the "true" value is unknown, objectively estimating or correcting for bias will not be possible (although that would not stop most from the SWAG approach). Forgive me if I assume too much about your project: As a part of a monitoring program, you are likely estimating abundance in some form (possibly density). Perhaps you are acutally using an index to abundance (e.g., raw counts) and thus are concerned that different observers detected different proportions of the population. This a very real problem that anyone using indices will run into. Thus, the quantities of interest (that are way too often ignored) are the detection probabilities. You are concerned that they differ among observers. One should also question how they vary by time of day, habitat, weather, etc. There are a number of ways to estimate detection probability depending on the field methods you wish to employ. Distance sampling works well for line and point transect sample. There are also some recently developed double-observer methods. The catch is, such methods must be incorporated into the design of your surveys. Post hoc analyses will be SWAG at best. The lesson here is that long-term data, if collected without sufficient forethought and sound design, do not provide relevant information. Large samples or long-term observations, while expensive and difficult to obtain, do nothing to guarantee the data are valuable. I don't mean to rant, but this has been (still is) a very hard lesson for ecologists to learn. Best of luck, Aaron Ellingson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:11:11 -0500 From: Marguerite Koch <mkoch@FAU.EDU> Subject: FullProfessor-DirectorEnvSci DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE PROGRAM FLORIDA ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY The position of Director of Environmental Sciences, with appointment as associate or full professor in the Department of Biological sciences, is available at Florida Atlantic University. The specific area of expertise is open, but preference will be given to candidates in ecology, conservation biology and/or resource management. The candidate should have an exemplary publication record, evidence of sustained research funding, and a strong commitment to graduate research and education. Environmental Sciences degree programs include a B.A. with an Environmental Emphasis, a Bachelor's degree with an Environmental Certificate, and a graduate program offering Master of Science tracks in Coastal/Wetland/Marine and Tropical Terrestrial Ecology. As director, the individual will be expected to promote the continued development of the intellectual and financial base of the program. Further detail on the program can be obtained at: http://www.fau.edu/divdept/science/envsci/environm.htm. The closing date for applications is February 28, 2001. The position can start as soon as September 1 2001. Applicants should submit a current curriculum vitae, an outline of future research interests, and names of three references to: Dr. Peter Lutz, Environmental Science Search Committee, Department of Biological Sciences and, 777 Glades Road, P.O. Box 3091, Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, Fl 33431. Florida Atlantic University is an Equal Opportunity/Access/Affirmative Action Institution. Marguerite S. Koch-Rose, Ph.D. Aquatic Plant Ecology Laboratory Biological Sciences Department Florida Atlantic University 777 Glades Road Boca Raton, FL 33431 Phone:(561)297-3325 Fax: (561) 297-2749 <mkoch@fau.edu> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:29:44 -0600 From: "D. Liane Cochran-Stafira" <cochran@SXU.EDU> Subject: botanical help Hi all, Can anyone tell me if Euphorbia milii, commonly known as "crown of thorns plant" is a C4 plant? My information says most members of the family are, but I don't know for sure about this one. Thanks much, Liane *************************** Liane Cochran-Stafira, Ph.D. Department of Biology Saint Xavier University 3700 West 103rd Street Chicago, Illinois 60655 phone: 773-298-3514 fax: 773-779-9061 email: cochran@sxu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:23:15 -0600 From: Gage Dayton <gdayton@TAMU.EDU> Subject: Ecological Symposium The Second Annual Integration across Ecological Scales Symposium entitled: "Complexity, Biodiversity, and Ecosystem Function" will be held at Texas A&M University March 24, 2001. The event will be a one-day symposium with seminars from distinguished ecologists, Lenore Fahrig, J.P. Grime, Dan Janzen, Jim Kitchell, Ariel Lugo, Judy Meyer, Bruce Milne, and Dan Simberloff. The aim of the symposium is to encourage integration across diverse fields of ecology, and to provide insight into the complex relationship between biodiversity and ecosystem function across multiple scales. Admission is free and all are welcome to attend. If you are interested in attending please visit our web site (http://wfscnet.tamu.edu/int/integration.htm) and register online. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:29:17 -0800 From: "Eric B. Peterson" <peterson@GOVMAIL.STATE.NV.US> Subject: Re: Stats question about technician bias Here is a citation for a study that might be of interest. It looked at observer bias in large area (0.38 ha) community plots, and its influence on multivariate results. McCune, B/ Dey, JP/ Peck, JE/ Cassell, D/ Heiman, K/ Will-Wolf, S/ Neitlich, PN 1997: Repeatability of community data: species richness versus gradient scor s in large-scale lichen studies. - The Bryologist 100(1): 40-46. "Aaron R. Ellingson" wrote: > At 02:55 PM 1/29/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Ecologgers, > >Suppose you are conducting a long-term experiment which is long eno gh to > >require multiple technicians to succeed one another in data collect on. Is > >there a way to determine the error introduced by technician bias? I so, > >can long-term data be corrected for this error so that the true tre tment > >effect can be more accurately observed? > >Thanks for any input. > > Brandon, > > Bias is technically defined as the difference between the the expected > ("average") value of an estimator and the "true" value of the parameter > being estimated. Since the "true" value is unknown, objectively estima ing > or correcting for bias will not be possible (although that would not st p > most from the SWAG approach). > > Forgive me if I assume too much about your project: As a part of a > monitoring program, you are likely estimating abundance in some form > (possibly density). Perhaps you are acutally using an index to abundan e > (e.g., raw counts) and thus are concerned that different observers dete ted > different proportions of the population. This a very real problem that > anyone using indices will run into. Thus, the quantities of interest ( hat > are way too often ignored) are the detection probabilities. You are > concerned that they differ among observers. One should also question h w > they vary by time of day, habitat, weather, etc. There are a number of > ways to estimate detection probability depending on the field methods y u > wish to employ. Distance sampling works well for line and point transe t > sample. There are also some recently developed double-observer methods > The catch is, such methods must be incorporated into the design of your > surveys. Post hoc analyses will be SWAG at best. > > The lesson here is that long-term data, if collected without sufficient > forethought and sound design, do not provide relevant information. Lar e > samples or long-term observations, while expensive and difficult to obt in, > do nothing to guarantee the data are valuable. > > I don't mean to rant, but this has been (still is) a very hard lesson f r > ecologists to learn. > > Best of luck, > > Aaron Ellingson -- Eric Peterson Plant Ecologist Nevada Natural Heritage Program 1550 E. College Pkwy Suite 145 Carson City, NV 89706-7921 (775) 687-4245 http://www.state.nv.us/nvnhp/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:16:24 -0800 From: Michael Loik <mloik@CATS.UCSC.EDU> Subject: Re: botanical help Liane, I do not know specifically about E. milii, but the Family Euphorbiaceae is one of the few families (and perhaps the only one) with C3, C4, and CAM members. I would be cautious about generalizations about photosynthetic pathways with this Family. Best regards, Michael Loik ******************************************** Dr. Michael E. Loik Department of Environmental Studies University of California Santa Cruz, CA 95064 voice 831-459-5785 fax 831 459-4015 www2.ucsc.edu/~mloik ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:58:54 -0700 From: "Aaron R. Ellingson" <are@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU> Subject: Re: FW: Stats question about technician bias In response to several off-list inquiries regarding observer bias in monitoring: Good references for line or point transect methods include: Buckland, ST, DR Anderson, KP Burnham, and JL Laake. 1993. Distance Sampling, Estimating Abundance of Biological Populations. Chapman Hall, New York. 446pp. (revised edition due in 2001) Nichols, JD et al. 2000. A double-ovserver approach for estimating detection probabilities and abundance from point counts. The Auk 117:393-40 . For a good explanation of the problem with inidices see: Conroy, MJ. 1996. Abuncance indices. In Measuring and Monitoring Biological Diversity, Standard Methods for Mammals. (DE Wilson et al., eds.) Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington. ... and SWAG = "Scientific" Wild-A** Guess Cheers, aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:55:39 -0800 From: jan.cyrus@ORST.EDU Subject: Job Announcement Please post: Closing date - April 13, 2001 DEPARTMENT HEAD, Oregon State University: The Department of Fisheries & Wild ife encompasses expertise in fisheries science, wildlife science, conservation biology, and natural resources ecology and management. The Department Head ill be appointed to a 12-month, 1.0 FTE position with indefinite tenure at the r nk of Professor. Responsibilities include: Provide overall administrative leadership for a multi-faceted department with programs in undergraduate and graduate education, basic and applied research, extended education, and Extension; Engender an atmosphere of academic freedom, independence of thou ht and regard for the value of faculty, staff, and students; and demonstrate scholarship in a field of fisheries science, wildlife science, natural resou ce ecology and management, or conservation biology. Applicants are required to have: a doctorate in fisheries or wildlife science, ecology, conservation biology, or a related field; experience commensurate with faculty status as Professor and a proven track record in obtaining grants, research publicatio , teaching, and public outreach; a national/international reputation in fisher es or wildlife science, conservation biology, or natural resource ecology and management; evidence of program leadership and administrative ability; demonstrated commitment to fostering diversity and affirmative action; and, excellent interpersonal communication skills. It is desirable that applican s have: administrative experience in academic institutions; experience in teaching, innovative learning approaches, and curriculum development; knowle ge and experience with Extension programs and commitment to improving public education on natural resource issues; and proven capabilities in research an outreach to state and federal agencies. Applications must consist of: curriculum vita that includes a complete list of scholarly and administrativ activities; three letters of reference (received by April 13, 2001); a state ent of interest indicating how this position relates to your long-term goals and leadership philosophy and how your experience qualifies you for this positio . Please submit applications, nominations, or inquiries to: Dr. Stan Gregory, Co-chair, Fisheries & Wildlife Search Committee, Department of Fisheries & Wildlife, 104 Nash Hall, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR 97331-3803. Phone: (541)737-1951, FAX: (541)737-3590, E-mail: Stanley.Gregory@orst.edu. Inquiries (but not applications) also can be submitted to: Dr. Bill Boggess, Co-chair, Fisheries & Wildlife Search Committee, Department of Agricultural nd Resource Economics, Ballard Extension Hall 213, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR 97331-3601. Phone: (541)737-1395, FAX: (541)737-1441, E-mail: Bill.Boggess@orst.edu. Oregon State University is an AA/EO Employer and h s a policy of being responsive to the needs of dual-career couples. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:49:00 -0700 From: John Meakin <johnm@BITTERROOTRESTORATION.COM> Subject: Job Announcement Job Description Hydrologist/Hydrogeologist January, 2001 Bitterroot Restoration, Inc. is seeking applicants for the position of Hydrologist/ Hydrogeologist. This position will begin about April 1, 2001 and will be based in our Auburn, CA office. The successful applicant will be responsible for providing consulting services in the field of hydrology, including bioengineering, hydraulic engineering, stream stabilization, project construction, water quality, channel assessment and/or sediment transport analysis. The successful applicant will also be involved in developing and maintaining new and established client relationships; generating sales of BRI products and services; preparing bid documents, writing proposals; marketing BRI's comprehensive ecological restoration services, and participating in trade shows or conferences. A Master's degree in hydrology/hydrogeology/fluvial geomorphology is required. The successful applicant must be licensed (or must be capable of immediately becoming licensed) as a hydrogeologist with the State of California. For a complete job description and application instructions as well as additional information about Bitterroot Restoration, Inc., please visit our web site: <www.bitterrootrestoration.com> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:39:40 -0500 From: Heather Dahl <DahlH@ECOSTUDIES.ORG> Subject: A Summer Program of Independent Research in Ecology for Undergrad u tes A Summer Program of Independent Research in Ecology for Undergraduates at the Institute of Ecosystem Studies, Millbrook, New York www.ecostudies.org Experience the entire research process, from problem formulation to = final report. Students carry out independent research projects of their own = design under the guidance of a mentor scientist.=20 Discover these important aspects of scientific inquiry: =95science is = a community activity; =95 there are many ways to address scientific = problems; =95 all research has a theoretical context; and =95 all research has a = societal context. Three programs supplement the research experience during the summer: (1) a series of workshops on research methods, (2) seminars, discussions and case studies focusing on the various contexts of = science, and (3) a forum on career opportunities in ecology. The twelve-week program begins May 29 and runs through August 20, 2001. = Each student makes an oral presentation at the Undergraduate Research = Symposium and submits a final paper for inclusion in an Institute Occasional Publication. Projects offered for 2001:=20 =B7 Microbial processes in urban ecosystems. Dr. Peter M. Groffman. =B7 White-footed mice, tree seeds, ectoparasites, and community dynamics in oak forests. Drs. Felicia Keesing and Richard S. Ostfeld. =B7 Segregation of tree species along soil nutrient gradients. Dr. Seth Bigelow. =B7 Spatial analysis of forest edges in Metropolitan Baltimore. Drs. M.L. Cadenasso and S.T.A. Pickett. =B7 Effects of air pollutants on the forests of the Catskill Mountains. Drs. Ross D. Fitzhugh and Gary M. Lovett =B7 Modeling oak forest ecosystem dynamics. Drs. James H. McCutchan and Gene E. Likens. =B7 Effects of forests age on food resources in streams. Dr. Stuart E.G. Findlay. =B7 Groundwater ecology. Dr. Stuart E.G. Findlay. =B7 Ecological functions of Hudson River marshes. Dr. Alan R. Berkowitz and Ms. Joan Doyle. =B7 Patch analysis of schoolyard ecosystems and surrounding neighborhoods. Drs. Brett Goodwin, Eric Schauber, Clive G. Jones and = Richard S. Ostfeld. =95 Isoprene from plants and atmospheric chemistry. Drs. Clive G. Jones and Manuel T. Lerdau. =95 Physical and biogeochemical controls over nitrogen oxide gas emissions from temperate forest soils. Drs. Rodney V. Venterea and = Peter M. Groffman. Stipend: Undergraduate freshmen, sophomores, juniors or first semester seniors, = are eligible to apply. Applicants must be citizens or permanent residents = of the U.S. or its possessions. Participants receive a $3000 stipend for the twelve- week program, and receive housing in an Institute dormitory at = a discounted rate of $250 for the summer. Some assistance is available = for travel to and from the program. For more information and to apply (applications must be postmarked by = 15 February 2001): Look at our website at =20 or contact: Heather Dahl Undergraduate Research Program Institute of Ecosystem Studies=20 P.O. Box R, Millbrook, NY 12545=20 (845) 677-9150 Fax: (845) 677-6455 E-mail:dahlh@ecostudies.org=20 About the Institute of Ecosystem Studies: The Institute of Ecosystem Studies is a highly interactive, research-oriented environment with a staff of 100. Students will = exchange ideas with each other, staff scientists and educators, and visitors and speakers working in public policy and academics. The Institute occupies = the 800 hectare Mary Flagler Cary Arboretum, approximately 117 km north of = New York City, in rural Dutchess County, N.Y. The modern laboratory and greenhouse facilities, library, computers and other resources of the Institute are available to program participants. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:00:59 EST From: Aneyww@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Stats question about technician bias In a message dated 30-Jan-2001 10:49:24 Pacific Standard Time, are@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU writes: << Since the "true" value is unknown, objectively estimating or correcting for bias will not be possible (although that would not stop most from the SWAG approach). >> Well, so much for the extensive work that has been done on estimating bias correction factors. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:17:18 -0700 From: "Aaron R. Ellingson" <are@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Stats question about technician bias >Well, so much for the extensive work that has been done on estimating bi s >correction factors. > >Warren > Warren, Your point is well taken and perhaps I need to clarify. In some sense we are hindered by not being able to talk about specifics (the original post did not say much about what the data were). Perhaps this will help. "Bias-correction" factors are calculated assuming the the "true" model is known. They are valid and useful (e.g. small-sample size corrections) when you have faith in the model. However, what model will you use to correct for observer bias??? I suggest that the "true" model (e.g., of detection probablitity as a funciton of observer) is unknown and therefore any correction for observer bias will be a guess. The best(?) option is to try to find an appropriate model, but this will require more data than simply the response measured by each observer (e.g., distance sampling or double-observer methods). Your comments are welcome. Respectfully, aaron At 08:00 PM 1/30/01 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 30-Jan-2001 10:49:24 Pacific Standard Time, >are@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU writes: > ><< Since the "true" value is unknown, objectively estimating > or correcting for bias will not be possible (although that would not st p > most from the SWAG approach). >> > >Well, so much for the extensive work that has been done on estimating bi s >correction factors. > >Warren > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:52:00 -0500 From: Jody Simoes <sim_cnh320@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Cerulean Warbler Study <html><DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>I'm working for a private Nature Center in SW Michigan which h s been collecting baseline data on nesting Cerulean Warblers for many years. I'm looking to incorporate my recreational tree climbing skills to collect Ceru ean data from a different vantage point!</P> <P>Looking to collect pertinent breeding biology data for the 2001 sea on. In addition to locating as many nests as possible to determine range size, density, etc, I'm hoping getting aloft will allow me to document; predation, brood parasitism, nest structure, nest placement/site selection, microclimate, cover, existence of nonbreeding nests, colonialism?, nes ing behavior including responses to predators, brooding rhythm, growth studies f nestlings.......</P> <P>Any other ideas, suggestions, priorities, recommendations for furth r reading or contacts would be greatly appreciated!</P> <P>Thanks in advance,</P> <P>J. Simoes</P></DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get yo r FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a> <br></p></html> ------------------------------ End of ECOLOG-L Digest - 29 Jan 2001 to 30 Jan 2001 *************************************************** ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
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