From aldo.solari@teleline.es Tue Jun 27 20:15:04 2000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:09:08 +0100 From: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]"To: R. Allen Curry , fish-ecology@helios.ulpgc.es Subject: re: stats programs There are several packages for "data mining" which have different features. In my opinion, SyStat > v 5 (now on v. 9, see www.spss.com) is a very good package for classical stats; it is easy to use, it requires no programming knowledge, it has very good graphics, it uses Basic for programming macros and it comes with a "state-of-the-art" handbook; there is a distribution list for support. If I had funds for just one stats package, I would definitely go for Systat; SPSS > v 6.1.3 (now on v. 10, see www.spss.com) is a good program to handle relatively large data bases (on around 10-12 million cells it runs _fast_ on a simple P5 at 100 MHz); graphics is still a weak side in this package (compared to Systat); also, be aware if you aim to run spectarl analyses: version 8 includes it but which was taken away in versions 9 and 10; the drawback of this package is the "add-on" marketing strategy SPSS has adopted; S+ (see www.mathsoft.com) is a heavy duty package for data mining; however, it requires significantly more input from the user; an advantage is that it includes certain types of regressions and fractional series analyses which are not included by-default in any other stats package; Dataplore (www.dataplore.de) appears to be a great program to run non-linear data analyses; it is aimed to detect chaos in time series and it includes documentation in HTML format; For juniors, I would definitely suggest StatView (see www.statview.com), an extremely easy to use classical stats package with great documentation in PDF format. Stats tests are easily explained in the docs. A very nice approach, in my opinion. This program was originally developed for the Macintosh and the pc version includes the highly user-friendly. On the Linux side, there are several free data analyses packages which should be seriously considered. You may follow the www.linux.org link and search for SAL (Scientific Applications for Linux). Bottom line: Systat may be the best investment so far (pc, mac); for junior scientists, StatView may be the way to go (pc, mac). Intel based machines may run Linux and a series of free stats analyses packages. More comments are welcome. Neither I nor fish-ecology is associated with any software producer. Cheers, APS ---- Aldo P. Solari. Fisheries Research Group, U. of Las Palmas Box 550, 35017, Las Palmas, Canary Islands. Mail-to[PGP key available on request]: [academic/research matters] [private matters] Home page, http://www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris/ ---- racurry@UNB.CA RAC> What software are folks using to fit linear and non-linear curves RAC> (including statistics on goodness of fit) to data these days? ******************************************************************** To unsubscribe: send an email to Majordomo@helios.ulpgc.es with the command line 'unsubscribe fish-ecology your@email.here' (without the quotations). Majordomo is case sensitive. If you have problems to unsubscribe or other queries you may reach the FE-tream at : fish-ecology-request@helios.ulpgc.es Thank you ********************************************************************