From Mauricio.Rosales@fao.org Thu Jul 19 16:49:33 2001 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:38:14 +0200 From: "Rosales, Mauricio (AGAL)"To: "'LEAD-AWI-ECONF-L@mailserv.fao.org'" Subject: LEAD-AWI-ECONF-L: Comments from Robert McCroskey on Health Sessi on [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ELECTRONIC CONFERENCE ON AREA WIDE INTEGRATION OF CROP AND LIVESTOCK PRODUCTION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert McCroskey endorses the comments of Dr Orskov regarding chemical compounds such copper, arsenic and antibiotics etc. that persist in the manure. He discusses the need for some control over these compounds citing the use of copper in rabbits' diets. He correctly states that in some countries the use of heavy metals, antibiotics, hormones is banned. We support his concerns, and further suggest that in many countries these compounds have strict withholding periods, are regularly monitored for as residues in meat, milk, soils and waterways; also a schedule system to ensure only qualified persons are able to prescribe and dispense many of these products is commonplace. The moderators ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Robert McCroskey [bobmc@uniserve.com] Dear Participants, I would like to agree with Prof. Dr. Orskov of Aberdeen on the topic of banning chemotherapy, the use of chemical compounds such as copper sulphate, arsenic and antibiotics which persist in the manure after excretion by the production animal. As previously mentioned, here we use the rabbit manure directly on the sheep pastures, so the high levels of copper found in normal use in rabbit feeds in North America cannot be used; our copper is held to the level of the animal's requirement in the feed, a supplementary 15 ppm (15 mg/kg). As well, nitrogen and phosphorus levels are minimized while potassium can be adjusted to meet the requirements of the pasture, to assist in preventing lodging, within the limits that potassium is a growth inhibitor in rabbits. The high levels of copper in rabbit feed began in North America after success with copper feeding in pigs, and continues despite the fact that copper feeding is most effective in hotter climates, and despite the fact that the USDA objects to the high levels of copper in rabbit livers and will set limits on organ heavy metal content if such use continues. Some "developed" countries have already banned or are considering banning heavy metal chemotherapy (and antibiotic and hormone use) in livestock on the grounds that it creates an increasing residue in soils. This is another indication that we cannot consider any by-product to be "waste" that is just put out of sight; we are in a closed system here on "Spaceship Earth" and there are consequences to all actions. So-called "developing" countries should not expect to have their "kick-at-the-can" as regards certain pollutants (such as ozone destroying refrigerants, DDT, agrochemicals, etc.); they should realize that perhaps this step in human "progress" is best to skip over, particularly since many parts of the world are short of water which works to dilute such pollutants. Robert McCroskey Canadian Centre for Rabbit Production Development (NGO) Surrey, BC, Canada